Solving the Mystery of Wrench Work Ratios

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The discussion revolves around the work done by different lengths of wrenches when applying torque to tighten a nut. The original poster attempts to understand the relationship between the length of the wrench and the work done, particularly questioning the relevance of the radius of the nut provided in the problem statement.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the torque produced by different lengths of wrenches and question how the radius of the nut factors into the calculations. There is a discussion about the forces required to tighten the nut with varying wrench lengths.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging in a back-and-forth exploration of the problem, with some suggesting that the force required with a longer wrench may be half that of a shorter one. However, there is no explicit consensus on the implications of this finding or the overall ratio of work done.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the use of the radius of the nut in the calculations, and the original poster expresses confusion about its relevance. The discussion reflects an ongoing attempt to clarify these points without arriving at a definitive conclusion.

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The Attempt at a Solution


If a force a F acts on the farther end of the wrench, the torque due to it Fl where l is the length of wrench. The work done by this torque for one full turn is Fl*(2##\pi##)
For wrench A, l=10 cm, and for wrench B, l=20cm.
Therefore the ratio of work done is 0.5. But this is wrong. :confused:
I don't understand why they have given the radius of the nut. I haven't used this information and I have no idea about where to use this.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 

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If a force F is required to tighten the nut using the 10 cm wrench, what force is required with the 20 cm one?
 
F/2?
 
Pranav-Arora said:
F/2?
Right.
 
Doc Al said:
Right.

But what next? Does that mean the ratio is 1?
 
Pranav-Arora said:
But what next? Does that mean the ratio is 1?
That's what I would say.
 
Doc Al said:
That's what I would say.

Thanks a lot Doc Al! :smile:
 

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