Solving the Synchronized Oscillation of Two Pendulums

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The discussion revolves around the synchronization of two simple pendulums with identical masses but differing lengths. Participants are tasked with determining when both pendulums will reach the same position after being released from rest, given the gravitational acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the periods of the pendulums and explore how to relate their different periods. There is an attempt to find a common multiplier for the periods to determine when they will coincide.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided numerical values for the periods of the pendulums and are exploring the concept of finding a least common multiple to determine synchronization. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express the relationship between the two periods.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the implications of using whole numbers versus fractional cycles in their calculations, indicating a potential constraint in how they approach the problem.

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Homework Statement



Consider the two “gigantic” simple pendulums with identical masses but with different lengths
as shown below. Suppose they are released from rest from position A at the same time as
shown. So you understand that they will not oscillate in harmony since they will have different
periods of oscillation. But at a later time we will see both pendulums reaching the position A
simultaneously. When will it take place? (calculate the time taken from the start). Take
g=980 cm/s2 . Must show all the calculations.



Homework Equations




T = 2pi * square root of length/gravity


The Attempt at a Solution



I really don't know what I am doing. I don't know how to relate two different periods. =(
 
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idkgirl said:

Homework Statement



Consider the two “gigantic” simple pendulums with identical masses but with different lengths
as shown below. Suppose they are released from rest from position A at the same time as
shown. So you understand that they will not oscillate in harmony since they will have different
periods of oscillation. But at a later time we will see both pendulums reaching the position A
simultaneously. When will it take place? (calculate the time taken from the start). Take
g=980 cm/s2 . Must show all the calculations.



Homework Equations




T = 2pi * square root of length/gravity


The Attempt at a Solution



I really don't know what I am doing. I don't know how to relate two different periods. =(

Welcome to the PF.

So what are the two different periods?
 


the periods are 1.8558 (the one with a length of 85.5) and 4.6398 (the one with a length of 534.4).

I think what I should do is 4.6398/1.8558 and then multiply the periods by a common multiplier, correct?
 


idkgirl said:
the periods are 1.8558 (the one with a length of 85.5) and 4.6398 (the one with a length of 534.4).

I think what I should do is 4.6398/1.8558 and then multiply the periods by a common multiplier, correct?

You are on the right track -- you need to find the least common multiple to find when the are coincident in position again...
 


Oh cool! Thanks so much. I multiplied 1.8558 by 5 and the other number by 2 to get 9.28. I mean, I could multiply the one with 1.8558 by 2.5 to get 4.6398 secs, since by the time the longer pendulum swings the short one will have completed 2.5 cycles. but maybe the problem with that is that you can't have .5 of cycle ...so yeah. ...that is why I am multiplying it by whole numbers, right?
 

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