Solving the Time for a Ball Thrown Vertically Upward

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving a ball thrown vertically upward from a height of 30 meters with an initial velocity of 14.5 m/s. Participants utilize the equation Vf^2 = Vo^2 + 2ad to determine the distance to the maximum height and identify inconsistencies in the problem statement. The calculated distance from the highest point to 12 meters above the ground is -10.727 meters, leading to confusion about the ball's trajectory. Ultimately, the consensus is that the problem contains an error in its formulation.

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Homework Statement


A ball is thrown vertically upward with an initial velocity at the edge of the roof of a building which is 30m above the ground. The speed of the ball is 14.5 m/s when the ball is 12m above the ground. How long does the ball take to reach maximum height?


Homework Equations


Vf^2=Vo^2+2ad



The Attempt at a Solution


First, i use that equation to find distance between the highest point and 12 above ground. Then I plan to use it one more time to find the initial velocity. But the thing is that

I find d=-10.727m as the distance between highest point and 12 above ground. This doesn't make sense, shouldn't it be higher than 18m?
 
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Thiendrah said:
I find d=-10.727m as the distance between highest point and 12 above ground. This doesn't make sense, shouldn't it be higher than 18m?

Hi Thiendrah! :smile:

Show us your calculations, and then we'll know how to help. :smile:
 
v2=u2+2aS

Use that equation for all the calculation 12m above the ground and then add 12m to your final result.

So obviously v=0 (as it reaches the top) u=14.5ms-1 a= -9.8ms-1 (If up is positive), and then solve for S and add 12m.
 
minifhncc, that's the same thing. You still get the same result.


0^2=14.5^2+2.(-9.8).S

S=10.727

10.727 + 12 = 22.727...

this doesn't make sense tho. The object is thrown vertically upward off a roof that's 30meters above the ground.

Am i doing anything wrong?
 
Thiendrah said:
minifhncc, that's the same thing. You still get the same result.


0^2=14.5^2+2.(-9.8).S

S=10.727

10.727 + 12 = 22.727...

this doesn't make sense tho. The object is thrown vertically upward off a roof that's 30meters above the ground.

Am i doing anything wrong?

Hi Thiendrah! :smile:

No … you seem to be right.

I can't see any way out of this in the question …

the question specifically says that the initial velocity is vertical …

your formula is correct (you could also have used KE + PE = constant, with the same result) …

the question is wrong. :frown:
 

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