Solving the Time for a Ball Thrown Vertically Upward

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The problem involves a ball thrown vertically upward from a height of 30 meters, with an initial velocity of 14.5 m/s. The question seeks to determine the time taken for the ball to reach its maximum height when it is observed to be 12 meters above the ground with a speed of 14.5 m/s.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss using the kinematic equation Vf^2 = Vo^2 + 2ad to find the distance to the maximum height and question the validity of their calculations, particularly the negative distance obtained.

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Some participants have shared their calculations and expressed confusion over the results, noting that the derived distance does not align with their expectations based on the problem setup. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions made in the problem statement.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of the ball being thrown from a height and the apparent contradictions in the problem's parameters. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the problem's correctness and the calculations involved.

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Homework Statement


A ball is thrown vertically upward with an initial velocity at the edge of the roof of a building which is 30m above the ground. The speed of the ball is 14.5 m/s when the ball is 12m above the ground. How long does the ball take to reach maximum height?


Homework Equations


Vf^2=Vo^2+2ad



The Attempt at a Solution


First, i use that equation to find distance between the highest point and 12 above ground. Then I plan to use it one more time to find the initial velocity. But the thing is that

I find d=-10.727m as the distance between highest point and 12 above ground. This doesn't make sense, shouldn't it be higher than 18m?
 
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Thiendrah said:
I find d=-10.727m as the distance between highest point and 12 above ground. This doesn't make sense, shouldn't it be higher than 18m?

Hi Thiendrah! :smile:

Show us your calculations, and then we'll know how to help. :smile:
 
v2=u2+2aS

Use that equation for all the calculation 12m above the ground and then add 12m to your final result.

So obviously v=0 (as it reaches the top) u=14.5ms-1 a= -9.8ms-1 (If up is positive), and then solve for S and add 12m.
 
minifhncc, that's the same thing. You still get the same result.


0^2=14.5^2+2.(-9.8).S

S=10.727

10.727 + 12 = 22.727...

this doesn't make sense tho. The object is thrown vertically upward off a roof that's 30meters above the ground.

Am i doing anything wrong?
 
Thiendrah said:
minifhncc, that's the same thing. You still get the same result.


0^2=14.5^2+2.(-9.8).S

S=10.727

10.727 + 12 = 22.727...

this doesn't make sense tho. The object is thrown vertically upward off a roof that's 30meters above the ground.

Am i doing anything wrong?

Hi Thiendrah! :smile:

No … you seem to be right.

I can't see any way out of this in the question …

the question specifically says that the initial velocity is vertical …

your formula is correct (you could also have used KE + PE = constant, with the same result) …

the question is wrong. :frown:
 

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