Solving the Transformation to Eddington-Finkelstein in Schwarzschild Geometry

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The discussion focuses on the transformation to Eddington-Finkelstein coordinates in Schwarzschild geometry, specifically the conversion of the time coordinate using the equation t = v - r - 2M log|r/2M - 1|. Participants highlight the differentiation of this equation, leading to confusion regarding the correct expression for dt. The correct relationship is dt = -dr/(1 - 2M/r) + dv, which simplifies the transformation process into the Schwarzschild line element. The key takeaway is the importance of careful differentiation and algebraic manipulation in achieving the correct transformation.

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Homework Statement



I'm having problems seeing how the transformation to Eddington-Finkelstein in the Schwarzschild geometry works. Any help would be great!

Homework Equations



So we have the Schwarzschild Geometry given by:

<br /> ds^2 = -(1-2M/r)dt^2 + (1-2M/r)^-^1 dr^2 + r^2(d\theta^2+sin^2\theta d\phi^2) <br />

and the Edd-Fink transformation assigns

<br /> t = v - r -2Mlog\mid r/2M-1 \mid<br />

The textbook says it is straight-forward to simply sub this into the S.G line element to get the transformed geometry, but I can't seem to get it.

The Attempt at a Solution



OK, so differentiating the expression for the new t coordinates above, I get:

<br /> dt = dv - dr -2M. \frac{d}{dr} [log(r-2m)-log(2m)]<br />
<br /> dt = dv - dr -2M. \left(\frac{1}{r-2m}\right)<br />
<br /> dt = dv - dr - \left(\frac{2m}{r}-1\right)<br />


...but the book says the answer is

<br /> dt = -\frac{dr}{1-\frac{2M}{r}} + dv<br />

>where am I going wrong here? Given this last expression, it is fairly easy to sub it into the SG line element to get the transformed coordinates. Problem is, I can't seem to get that far! Any help much appreciated...
 
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Astrofiend said:

Homework Statement


OK, so differentiating the expression for the new t coordinates above, I get:

<br /> dt = dv - dr -2M. \frac{d}{dr} [log(r-2m)-log(2m)]<br />

Ermm... shouldn't this be

dt = dv - dr -2M. \frac{d}{dr} [log(r-2m)-log(2m)]dr

?:wink:

Also, 2m\left(\frac{1}{r-2m}\right)<br /> \neq \left(\frac{2m}{r}-1\right)
 


Damn it! Still not seeing it...
 


dt=dv-dr-2m\left(\frac{1}{r-2m}\right)dr=dv-\left[1+2m\left(\frac{1}{r-2m}\right)\right]dr

Just simplify...it's basic algebra from here.
 

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