Solving the Transformation to Eddington-Finkelstein in Schwarzschild Geometry

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the transformation to Eddington-Finkelstein coordinates within the context of Schwarzschild geometry. The original poster expresses difficulty in understanding how to perform this transformation and correctly substitute it into the Schwarzschild line element.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to differentiate the transformation equation for time coordinates and questions their own algebraic manipulation. Some participants raise concerns about the correctness of the differentiation and the resulting expressions, suggesting a need for clarity in the steps taken.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the differentiation process and algebraic simplifications. There is no explicit consensus yet, but some guidance on algebraic manipulation has been offered.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the transformation as presented in the textbook, which may not fully align with their current understanding or calculations. There is an emphasis on ensuring the correctness of each step in the differentiation process.

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Homework Statement



I'm having problems seeing how the transformation to Eddington-Finkelstein in the Schwarzschild geometry works. Any help would be great!

Homework Equations



So we have the Schwarzschild Geometry given by:

[tex] ds^2 = -(1-2M/r)dt^2 + (1-2M/r)^-^1 dr^2 + r^2(d\theta^2+sin^2\theta d\phi^2) [/tex]

and the Edd-Fink transformation assigns

[tex] t = v - r -2Mlog\mid r/2M-1 \mid[/tex]

The textbook says it is straight-forward to simply sub this into the S.G line element to get the transformed geometry, but I can't seem to get it.

The Attempt at a Solution



OK, so differentiating the expression for the new t coordinates above, I get:

[tex] dt = dv - dr -2M. \frac{d}{dr} [log(r-2m)-log(2m)][/tex]
[tex] dt = dv - dr -2M. \left(\frac{1}{r-2m}\right)[/tex]
[tex] dt = dv - dr - \left(\frac{2m}{r}-1\right)[/tex]


...but the book says the answer is

[tex] dt = -\frac{dr}{1-\frac{2M}{r}} + dv[/tex]

>where am I going wrong here? Given this last expression, it is fairly easy to sub it into the SG line element to get the transformed coordinates. Problem is, I can't seem to get that far! Any help much appreciated...
 
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Astrofiend said:

Homework Statement


OK, so differentiating the expression for the new t coordinates above, I get:

[tex] dt = dv - dr -2M. \frac{d}{dr} [log(r-2m)-log(2m)][/tex]

Ermm... shouldn't this be

[tex]dt = dv - dr -2M. \frac{d}{dr} [log(r-2m)-log(2m)]dr[/tex]

?:wink:

Also, [tex]2m\left(\frac{1}{r-2m}\right)<br /> \neq \left(\frac{2m}{r}-1\right)[/tex]
 


Damn it! Still not seeing it...
 


[tex]dt=dv-dr-2m\left(\frac{1}{r-2m}\right)dr=dv-\left[1+2m\left(\frac{1}{r-2m}\right)\right]dr[/tex]

Just simplify...it's basic algebra from here.
 

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