Solving Torque Equalibrium Problem for Beam and Boy

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The discussion centers on a torque equilibrium problem involving a 40kg beam and a 20kg boy walking along it. The initial calculations suggest that the boy can walk to the edge of the beam before it tips over, but there are errors in the torque calculations regarding the beam's mass distribution and center of mass. It is emphasized that the beam should be treated as a single unit to simplify the analysis, focusing on the torques around the pivot points. Correcting these calculations is crucial to accurately determine how close the boy can approach the beam's edge without causing it to fall. Accurate torque analysis is essential for solving this equilibrium problem effectively.
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Problem: A 40kg, 5.0m long beam is supported by, but not attached to, the two posts in the figure. A 20kg boy starts walking along the beam. How close can he get to the right end of the beam without it falling over?
http://student.ucr.edu/~meliz003/phy.JPG

My answer:
\tau_net = (F_1*x_F_1)-(F_Beam*X_Beam)-(F_Boy*X_Boy)
Since, \tau_net = 0

0 = (F_1*x_F_1)-(F_Beam*X_Beam)-(F_Boy*X_Boy)
0 = (40*3)-(40*2)-(20*X_boy)

Comes out to X_Boy = 2?
So the boy has to step at the very edge of the beam for it to start falling over?
 
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prophet05 said:
My answer:
\tau_net = (F_1*x_F_1)-(F_Beam*X_Beam)-(F_Boy*X_Boy)
Since, \tau_net = 0

0 = (F_1*x_F_1)-(F_Beam*X_Beam)-(F_Boy*X_Boy)
0 = (40*3)-(40*2)-(20*X_boy)
Looks like you are treating the beam as have two parts, which is OK. But:
(1) 40 kg is the mass of the entire beam, not each piece;
(2) The weight of an object acts through its center of mass.
You need to redo those torque calculations.

Even better is to treat the beam as one piece--that way you only have two torques to worry about. Where is its center of mass with respect to the pivot?
 

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