Solving Torque Equalibrium Problem for Beam and Boy

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The discussion focuses on solving the torque equilibrium problem for a 40kg, 5.0m long beam supported by two posts, with a 20kg boy walking along it. The net torque equation is established as τ_net = (F_1*x_F_1)-(F_Beam*X_Beam)-(F_Boy*X_Boy), leading to the conclusion that the boy can walk up to 2 meters from the left end before the beam tips over. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly identifying the center of mass for both the beam and the boy in torque calculations to ensure accurate results.

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Problem: A 40kg, 5.0m long beam is supported by, but not attached to, the two posts in the figure. A 20kg boy starts walking along the beam. How close can he get to the right end of the beam without it falling over?
http://student.ucr.edu/~meliz003/phy.JPG

My answer:
\tau_net = (F_1*x_F_1)-(F_Beam*X_Beam)-(F_Boy*X_Boy)
Since, \tau_net = 0

0 = (F_1*x_F_1)-(F_Beam*X_Beam)-(F_Boy*X_Boy)
0 = (40*3)-(40*2)-(20*X_boy)

Comes out to X_Boy = 2?
So the boy has to step at the very edge of the beam for it to start falling over?
 
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prophet05 said:
My answer:
\tau_net = (F_1*x_F_1)-(F_Beam*X_Beam)-(F_Boy*X_Boy)
Since, \tau_net = 0

0 = (F_1*x_F_1)-(F_Beam*X_Beam)-(F_Boy*X_Boy)
0 = (40*3)-(40*2)-(20*X_boy)
Looks like you are treating the beam as have two parts, which is OK. But:
(1) 40 kg is the mass of the entire beam, not each piece;
(2) The weight of an object acts through its center of mass.
You need to redo those torque calculations.

Even better is to treat the beam as one piece--that way you only have two torques to worry about. Where is its center of mass with respect to the pivot?
 

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