Solving Trigonometric Problems with Multiple Formulas

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The discussion revolves around solving trigonometric problems involving multiple formulas, specifically focusing on identities and simplifications related to sine and cosine functions. The original poster presents two equations that require verification and simplification, highlighting the complexity of choosing the appropriate formulas.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various attempts to simplify the given trigonometric expressions, questioning the validity of their steps and the appropriateness of the formulas used. Some express confusion about reaching zero in their equations and the implications of common denominators.

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There is ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problems, with some participants providing hints and guidance on using sum-to-product identities and common denominators. However, there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed, as participants continue to question their reasoning and the effectiveness of their approaches.

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Participants note the challenge of navigating multiple trigonometric identities and formulas, indicating a potential lack of clarity on which to apply in specific contexts. There is also mention of homework constraints, as the original poster seeks verification of their attempts.

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Homework Statement



1)
COS4\theta-COS2\theta/SIN4\theta-SIN2\theta=-TAN3\theta

2)sinx/cosx+1 + cosx-1/sinx = 0



Homework Equations


1) Verify
2)verify

The Attempt at a Solution


1)
cos(2\theta-2\theta)-cos2\theta / sin(2\theta+sin2\theta)-sin2\theta

when simplified i get a large answer :S

2)
sinx/cosx+1 X cos-1/cos-1(reciprocal) + cos-1/sinx
= sinx cosx-1/ cos2 -1 + cosx-1/sinx
=sinx cosx-1/ Sin2x + cosx-1/sinx
=cosx-1/sinx + cosx-1/sinx
=2(cosx-1)/sinx :S


thats it i hope u can read it
formulas used
Trigonometric Identities
sum and difference Formulas of cosines and sines
and double angle formulas

my problem is that there is so many formulas and its hard to tell which one to use
they are all usable but not all give u the answer
 
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Find what

Sin(A+B)-Sin(A-B) and similar for cos ,for the first part.

\frac{sinx}{cosx+1}+\frac{cosx-1}{sinx}

Just bring them to the same denominator
 
well how do u get them = to zero
this far, and i don't know if its right :P
cosx-1/sinx + cosx-1/sinx they gave the same denominator but they dotn' = zero
 
Anony-mouse said:
well how do u get them = to zero
this far, and i don't know if its right :P
cosx-1/sinx + cosx-1/sinx they gave the same denominator but they dotn' = zero

\frac{sinx}{cosx+1}+\frac{cosx-1}{sinx}


\frac{?}{(sinx)(cosx+1)}


bring them to a common denominator like that one.
 
\frac{sin^{2}x+cos^{2}x-1}{(sinx)(cosx+1)}


?
 
Anony-mouse said:
\frac{sin^{2}x+cos^{2}x-1}{(sinx)(cosx+1)}


?

correct.

What is sin^2x+cos^2x equal to?
 
rock.freak667 said:
correct.

What is sin^2x+cos^2x equal to?

:biggrin: 1
thx man
too simple and i didn't look that :P
 
Anony-mouse said:

Homework Statement



1)
COS4\theta-COS2\theta/SIN4\theta-SIN2\theta=-TAN3\theta

Are you still looking for help on this one?
Hint: this is a very straightforward case of sum-to-product substitution
 
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2cos theta / 2sin theta

when i use the double angle formula I end up with squared cosines and sines :S
 
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Anony-mouse said:
2cos theta / 2sin theta

when i use the double angle formula I end up with squared cosines and sines :S

Don't use the double angle formula here,it'll get too tedious

Consider this
sin(A+B)=sinAcosB+sinBcosA
sin(A-B)=sinAcosB-sinBcosA

if we add those two we get

sin(A+B)+sin(A-B)=2sinAcosB

Let P=A+B and Q=A-B, you'd eventually get A=(P+Q)/2 and B=(P-Q)/2

hence then

SinP+SinQ=2sin[(P+Q)/2]cos[(P-Q)/2]

now do the same for

cos(A+B)-cos(A-B)
 
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thx that helps
 
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