Solving Two Layer Fluid Flow with Different Viscosities and Equal Densities

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The discussion focuses on solving fluid flow problems involving two layers of fluid with different viscosities but equal densities. Participants explore methods for analyzing the flow, including the application of boundary conditions and the Navier-Stokes equations.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests integrating equations along with boundary conditions to solve for velocity in a two-layer fluid system.
  • Another participant proposes that the problem can be approached with two equations and two unknowns.
  • A different participant recommends performing a shell force balance to determine how shear stress varies with distance, noting that the shear stress at the upper surface is zero.
  • Concerns are raised about whether the Navier-Stokes equations should be used, with a request for equations to support the previous claims.
  • A later reply confirms the use of Navier-Stokes equations, suggesting to express them in coordinates perpendicular and parallel to the incline and emphasizing the need to match shear stresses at the interface between the two fluids.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate methods for solving the problem, with some advocating for a shell force balance approach and others insisting on the necessity of the Navier-Stokes equations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the flow conditions, such as the steady-state assumption and the treatment of shear stress at the interface. The discussion also highlights the need for clarity on the mathematical steps involved in applying the proposed methods.

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Following this example,

http://www.creatis.insa-lyon.fr/~dsarrut/bib/others/phys/www.jwave.vt.edu/crcd/batra/lectures/esmmse5984/node53.html

I know you can solve for v by integrating the equations along with boundary conditions.

How would you solve a problem where you have another layer on top of the original fluid? Such as in the attached picture.

You can assume the densities are equal, but the viscosities are different
 

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Wouldn't you just have two equations and two unknowns?
 
If the flow is steady, first do a shell force balance to determine how the shear stress is varying with distance measured normal to the upper surface. The shear stress at the upper surface is zero. Once you know how the shear stress is varying, you can use Newton's law of viscosity to get the velocity gradient versus position. Make sure you take into account the condition that the velocity gradient is discontinuous at the interface (because of the discontinuity in viscosity). You can then integrate to get the velocity as a function of position, taking into account that the velocity at the lower boundary is zero, and the velocity at the interface between the fluids is continuous.
 
Hi,

Thanks for your input, but isn't this supposed to be done using the Navier Stokes equations?

That is how it was done for one layer. Could you provide some equations with what you are saying?

Thanks
 
thshen34 said:
Hi,

Thanks for your input, but isn't this supposed to be done using the Navier Stokes equations?

That is how it was done for one layer. Could you provide some equations with what you are saying?

Thanks

Yes. Express the NS equations in coordinates perpendicular and parallel to the incline. You only need to use the equation parallel to the incline. Velocity is not changing along the direction parallel to the incline, and neither is the pressure. You are left with the ρgsinθ term and the second derivative of the velocity with respect to y term in the equation. You need to integrate twice with respect to y, and you need to match the shear stresses at the interface between the two fluids: η(dv/dy) is continuous at the interface, so dv/dy is discontinuous. You have zero shear stress (velocity gradient) at the top boundary, and zero velocity at the bottom boundary. This should give you your constants of integration.
 

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