Solving Work and Force of Wagon and Child

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The problem involves a child pulling a wagon with a force at an angle, requiring calculations of work done and the effective force in the direction of motion. The subject area pertains to mechanics, specifically work and force analysis.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for work and the force component in the direction of motion. There are questions about the correct interpretation of the force used in the work calculation and whether the initial setup was correct.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the need to find the component of the force in the direction of motion for part A. There is recognition that the original poster computed part B correctly, leading to further exploration of the relationship between the force and work.

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Participants are navigating the distinction between force and work units, with some confusion regarding the application of the force at an angle and its impact on the calculations. There is an emphasis on ensuring clarity in the definitions and units used in the problem.

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A child pulls a wagon with a force of 100N on a rope that makes a sixty degree angle with a horizontal floor. He pulls the wagon a distance of 25 meters along the floor. A: how much force is done in the direction that the wagon moves? B: How much work does the child do?


W = FD
W = FDCosθ



A: W = FD

= (100)(25)
= 2500 Joules done in the direction that the wagon moves

B: W = FDCosθ

= (100)(25)Cos60
= 1250 Joules

Did I setup and solve these problems correctly?
 
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B is right, but A is not. A is looking for a force but you found work.
 
Is this the force that you are supposed to use for B or are you supposed to use the force that you are supposed to solve for?
 
physicsballer2 said:
Is this the force that you are supposed to use for B

Yes

or are you supposed to use the force that you are supposed to solve for?

??
 
Is there a separate equation I need to solve for the force in part A ? I assume the force they are asking for isn't given in the information. Referring to my question above should the 100 N be used for part B or should for force found in part A be used?
 
physicsballer2 said:
Is there a separate equation I need to solve for the force in part A ? I assume the force they are asking for isn't given in the information. Referring to my question above should the 100 N be used for part B or should for force found in part A be used?
Only force in direction of displacement contributes work. The force applied is at an angle to the horizontal so for part A, you need to find the component of this force in the direction of motion.
You computed B correctly, which means you effectively already have the answer.
 
I thought I understood your answer but I do not think I did. I used W=FD 1250=F(25)
F=50N

That does not seem correct
 
Think of your formula for work as W = (Fcosθ)*D

What does Fcosθ represent?
 
The force in the direction it is being pulled? Which is equal to 50 Joules
 
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physicsballer2 said:
The force in the direction it is being pulled?
Right. Which is what part A asks for.

Which is equal to 50 Joules
Newtons, not Joules. (Newton the unit of force; Joule the unit of energy.)
 
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I guess I solved wrong but got the correct answer? Because I did W = F * Cos60

W = 100 * Cos60
W = 50 joules

I appreciate your patience
 
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physicsballer2 said:
I guess I solved wrong but got the correct answer? Because I did W = F * Cos60
W = F*Cos60*25, not F*Cos60. (Work has units of force*distance, which are Joules; Force has units of Newtons.)
 

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