Some problems with conic sections

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The discussion revolves around problems related to conic sections, specifically ellipses and hyperbolas. Participants are exploring transformations of conic equations and the implications of translations and rotations on their standard forms.

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  • Participants discuss the translation of an ellipse and the necessary steps to convert its equation to standard form. There are attempts to complete the square and questions about the correctness of these transformations. Another participant raises a question about finding the equation of a hyperbola based on given parameters, including its center and vertex, and the slope of its asymptotes.

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Some participants provide guidance on the translation process, suggesting that it may not be necessary to convert to standard form. Others express uncertainty about their approaches and seek confirmation of their reasoning. Multiple interpretations of the problems are being explored, particularly regarding the transformations involved.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the application of translations and the completion of squares in the context of conic sections. Participants are also navigating the implications of the hyperbola's asymptotes and their relationship to the vertices.

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Here are some conic questions that am having problems with :

1) The general form of a particular ellipse is show Below. If the conic is translated 2 units left and 1 unit down, determine the new general term.

2x2+y2-2x+3y-9=0
Solution,
i figureed that we will have to convert this to Sandard form so we can apply the Trans;ations.

2x2-2x y2-3y=0

Then we need to complete the squares

2(x2-x+\frac{1}{4}) + (y2-3y+\frac{9}{4})=9+1/2+9/4

When i divided the whole thing by 11.75 so i can get 1 on the Right hand side, a fractions come up on the right hand side, and i just can't get it to the Standard form of the elipse


2) Find the equation of a hyperbola in standard form or general form, that has its centre at (-2, 5), one vertex at (-2, 10), and the slope of one of its asymptotes is 5/4 .

Solution:
I drew the Hyperbola so i can imagine it, and i guessed that a = 5 since the center point is at (-2,5) and the Vertex is at (-2,10)

The slops are b/a and -b/a
So it should be b/5 not b/4

aint what am saying right ?
 
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The standard equation of ellipse becomes
(x - 1/2)^2/(47/8) + (y-3/2)^2/(47/4) = 1
 


Whats the question?
 


Sorry, i meant to ask if what i did is correct , or is there something am missing ?
 


Mspike6 said:
Here are some conic questions that am having problems with :

1) The general form of a particular ellipse is show Below. If the conic is translated 2 units left and 1 unit down, determine the new general term.

2x2+y2-2x+3y-9=0
There is no need to convert to standard form. "Translating 2 units left" is exactly the same as adding 2 to x. "Translating one unit down" is exactly the same as subtracting 1 from y. Replace x by x+2 and y by y- 1.


2) Find the equation of a hyperbola in standard form or general form, that has its centre at (-2, 5), one vertex at (-2, 10), and the slope of one of its asymptotes is 5/4 .
Rotating through an angle \theta gives x'= x cos(\theta)+ y sin(\theta), y'= x sin(\theta)- y cos(\theta). Replace x by x cos(\theta)+ y sin(\theta), y by x sin(\theta)- y cos(\theta). \theta= arctan(5/4).
 


HallsofIvy said:
There is no need to convert to standard form. "Translating 2 units left" is exactly the same as adding 2 to x. "Translating one unit down" is exactly the same as subtracting 1 from y. Replace x by x+2 and y by y- 1.



Rotating through an angle \theta gives x'= x cos(\theta)+ y sin(\theta), y'= x sin(\theta)- y cos(\theta). Replace x by x cos(\theta)+ y sin(\theta), y by x sin(\theta)- y cos(\theta). \theta= arctan(5/4).

Thanks a lot ! :D
really appreciate it
 

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