Somebody please explain this pic?

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The discussion revolves around understanding a photograph of a water tank with holes, specifically why water does not flood out of these holes. Participants explore concepts related to pressure, buoyancy, and fluid dynamics, with references to practical examples and theoretical principles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why water does not flood out of the holes in the tank.
  • Another participant suggests that the pressure above the water in the tank is less than atmospheric pressure.
  • A request for clarification on the previous point indicates a need for more specific information.
  • It is proposed that the upper side of the tank is airtight and maintained at a pressure slightly below atmospheric pressure, similar to bird watering devices.
  • A participant explains that if the pressure of air plus the pressure created by the height of the water equals the external air pressure, the water will not move, referencing the principle behind liquid manometers.
  • One participant expresses that they have gained some understanding from the discussion.
  • Another participant humorously speculates about the purpose of the tank, suggesting it might be for lazy fishermen.
  • It is suggested that the tank may be used for feeding fish.
  • A comparison is made to the mechanics of a straw, illustrating how pressure differences prevent water from falling out.
  • A participant notes that the image could be useful for engaging students in discussions about pressure in a high school chemistry class.
  • One participant mentions a friend who attempted to patent a similar concept, raising concerns about maintaining water oxygenation and removing air from the container.
  • There is a discussion about the height of water needed to create a vacuum or vapor at the top, with a participant questioning the accuracy of the earlier claim regarding the height of water required.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints and hypotheses regarding the principles of pressure and fluid dynamics, but there is no consensus on the specifics of the situation or the accuracy of the claims made.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about pressure conditions and the behavior of fluids in the tank are not fully explored, and there are unresolved questions regarding the height of water needed to produce specific effects.

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pressure above the water in a tank is less than 1 atm ?
 
could yoube a little more specific?
 
Whatta is right. Compare to some bird watering devices.
The upper side of the tanks is airtight and maintained slightly under atmospheric pressure.
 
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i429923_untitled.GIF, if pressure of air p1 plus pressure created by H meters of liquid is equal to pressure of air p2, water does not move. this is the way liquid manometers work. so, if there is no air in the tank, the water will not flood out of the cup that is less than ~1m from its ceiling.
 
thankyou i think igot a clue
 
So... is that place a resort for really lazy fishermen or what? :confused:
 
I think they are feeding the fish.
 
Same idea as a straw; I'm sure you've done this many times. Suck up some liquid or just put your straw into a liquid and then put your finger on top of it pull the straw out.

Why doesn't the water just fall out of the straw. This is due to the inside and outside pressures.
 
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This would be a good photo to get the students attention when discussing pressure in a high school chemistry class.
 
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I know a guy who tried to patent the whole inverted-fishtank idea.. but in practice I imagine it's a pain to keep the water oxygenated while continually removing any errant air from the top of the container.
 
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whatta said:
water will not flood out of the cup that is less than ~1m from its ceiling.

..isn't that mercury (~700-800mm)? I thought water had to be about 10 metres up before it's weight would produce a vacuum (or likely vapour) at the top.
 

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