Space-time Concept by Einstein

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of space-time as proposed by Einstein, exploring its definition, implications, and graphical representation. Participants seek clarification on the nature of space-time, its dimensionality, and how it can be visualized, touching on both theoretical and practical aspects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe space-time as a four-dimensional continuum consisting of three spatial dimensions and one time dimension, emphasizing the need for four coordinates to specify an event.
  • Others elaborate on the necessity of including time when describing the position of an object, reinforcing the idea that space and time are interconnected.
  • A participant points out that Minkowski, a mathematician, contributed to the formulation of space-time, suggesting a historical context for the concept.
  • There are inquiries about the feasibility of graphing space-time on a Cartesian plane, with some suggesting that while a simple representation is possible, a true four-dimensional graph cannot be accurately depicted in two dimensions.
  • Some participants express uncertainty regarding alternative graphing methods for representing four-dimensional space-time, indicating a lack of consensus on this topic.
  • One participant discusses the relationship between space and time at high speeds, suggesting that they transform into one another, which adds complexity to the understanding of their independence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic definition of space-time as a combination of three spatial dimensions and one time dimension. However, there are multiple competing views regarding the graphical representation of space-time and the implications of its dimensionality, leaving the discussion unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on definitions of dimensions and the unresolved nature of how to accurately graph four-dimensional space-time. Participants express varying levels of understanding and familiarity with the concept, which affects the clarity of the discussion.

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Good day!
I am quite blur with the Space-time concept proposed by Einstein.
Can anyone explain briefly on what he meant by that term(Space-time)?
3-D space+1-D time?
:confused:
 
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Yes, "A four dimensional space time continuum" means three dimensions of space and one time dimension.
It simply means that physics deals with "events"- something that happens at a specific point, at a specific time. In any coordinate system, it will four numbers to specify an "event".
 
To bounce off what Ivy said, imagine you want to describe where something is. To do so we need to have 3 numbers for space, one number for each dimension (or axis on a graph). Their meeting point is where that object is located at. But, it turns out that we also have to have another number to describe where something is at in time. So 4 numbers equals 4 dimensions, 3 of space and 1 of time.
 
Actually it was Minkowski (one of Einstein's mathematics professors) who formulated the idea of space-time... and used it to explain Einstein's relativity to others.
 
Thanks... As i knew physicist likes to tabulate results and put them as a graph right? Erm...let's say i want to put the Space-time on a Cartesian plane, is that possible? Or are there any other more advance graphing methods for a 4-Dimension graph?
 
F1225 said:
Thanks... As i knew physicist likes to tabulate results and put them as a graph right? Erm...let's say i want to put the Space-time on a Cartesian plane, is that possible?

I think so. A simple example of a particle traveling one direction through space can easily be shown on a normal graph. You only need one axis for space and one for time.
 
Oic..Which means that we won't be able to draw a 4D graph on a 2D cartesian plane?
Other than cartesian plane are there any other graphing methods?
:what:
 
F1225 said:
Oic..Which means that we won't be able to draw a 4D graph on a 2D cartesian plane?
Other than cartesian plane are there any other graphing methods?
:what:

Not sure. I'm would bet there are plenty of different methods, but I really don't know. Try searching around a bit.
 
F1225 said:
Good day!
I am quite blur with the Space-time concept proposed by Einstein.
Can anyone explain briefly on what he meant by that term(Space-time)?
3-D space+1-D time?
:confused:
See: http://www.bartleby.com/173/17.html
 
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The 'space time concept' alludes to that fact that when you want to meet someone, for example, you have to specify a PLACE and a TIME...one without the other won't do. In addition, it turns out that at very high speeds, time and space transform into one another...
they are not entirely independent entities as they appear to be in our everyday world.

You may also want to study Minkowski space. Nice diagram and explanation here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minkowski_space


note that the horizontal 'hypersurface of the present' is merely and x and y space,
while the passage of time is plotted vertically...up for the future, down for the past...

Einstein concluded the spacetime interval is fixed for all observers, and you can't go as fast as 'c' if you have mass...so we are stuck within the plotted 'lightcones'.
 

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