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I can't seem to wrap my head around it: if an object is moving at speed v in frame S, and its observed to move at speed v' in S', what is the relationship?
PeroK said:This is homework, so you need to give it your best shot. Are you stuck on all of these questions?
PAllen said:There appears to be some missing explanation of the problem context (that you didn’t quote?). Specifically, it appears you are to assume S‘ is moving at v in the x direction per S.
In the non-relativistic limit we have ##u = u' + v##. Note that these are all velocities, not speeds.thequantumcat said:So then is this correct:
S is at rest--inertial frame.
u is speed of object in that frame
S' is "moving observer" and its speed is v
u' is the speed of object in S' (i.e speed as seen by this frame)
In that case, the velocity formula would be:
u = (u' - v)/(1-(u'v/c^2)) ??
I am confused by this part really. Which quantity goes where?
I always get confused...
What is the difference between "speed" and "velocity"? I ask, because I am a non-native English speaker, and dictionaries translate both to the same set of words:PeroK said:Note that these are all velocities, not speeds.
Velocity means the vector. Speed is its magnitude. I seem to recall reading on here that this convention was established by one textbook in the 1920s (or something like that), so this may not apply to older texts.Sagittarius A-Star said:What is the difference between "speed" and "velocity"?
What does who mean by that?etotheipi said:Also, what do they mean by 'massless energy' and 'massless momentum'?
Ibix said:What does who mean by that?
I've never heard the term before, but I assume they mean energy/momentum taken away by massless particles.etotheipi said:Also, what do they mean by 'massless energy' and 'massless momentum'?
...which is an image, which is why "find in page" only found your post. Sorry.etotheipi said:In the problem in post #3
Me neither. Energy or momentum per unit mass, perhaps? Or kinetic energy ##(\gamma-1)mc^2##, although what massless momentum would be in that case I don't know.etotheipi said:I don't quite know what that means...
That makes more sense. Something like a nuclear fission process where you get energy carried away as radiation.PeroK said:I've never heard the term before, but I assume they mean energy/momentum taken away by massless particles.
vanhees71 said:Once more, the confusion seems to be due to the use of old-fashioned ideas which were long abandoned in the physics community but still being used in popular-science writings and (which is a crime) even in some textbooks. One such things are the various relativistic masses.
DrStupid said:Where do you see relativistic masses?
vanhees71 said:In #1, or how do you interpret "massless energy".
Vanadium 50 said:A useful tool for derailing threads.
vanhees71 said:If you agree with all this confusion, could you then explain to me, what "massless energy" and "massless momentum" is? I interpreted this as if this might be a language stemming from usual wrong concepts related to mass.
vanhees71 said:Sigh! I knew that it is about the oldfashioned concept of mass :-((. Mass is invariant mass (a scalar) and nothing else, and energy is energy (the temporal component of the energy-momentum four-vector).