Special relativity clocks observed from two frames

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The problem involves two observers, S and S', who are in relative motion at a speed of 0.6c. Each observer has a clock synchronized to zero when their origins coincide. The questions focus on the time recorded on S' clock as observed by S at specific intervals, exploring concepts of time dilation and the relativity of simultaneity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of time dilation to solve the first part of the problem and express confusion regarding the interpretation of the second part. There is a question about how to calculate the observed time on S' clock from S's perspective, particularly in relation to the use of a telescope.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants clarifying the distinction between the calculated time on S' clock and the time observed by S. There is an acknowledgment of common misconceptions among beginners regarding these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of special relativity, particularly the differences between proper time and observed time in different reference frames. There is a focus on ensuring clarity in understanding the problem's conditions and implications.

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Homework Statement


Observers S and S' stand at the origins of their respective frames, which are moving relative to each other with a speed of .6c. Each has a standard clock, which, as usual, they set to zero when the two origins coincide. Observer S keeps the S' clock visually in sight. (a) What time will the S' clock record when the S clock records 5 micro seconds? (b) What time will Observer S actually read on the S' clock when his own clock reads 5 micro seconds?


Homework Equations


time dilation: t = gamma (proper time)


The Attempt at a Solution


I can solve part A by using time dilation. My confusion comes in understanding how to interpret the conditions set on part b - how is part b different from part A? I know that for time dilation, the proper time is the time measured when the clock is at rest. But how can I calculate what one observer sees on a clock in another frame?
 
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I assume that part a is in observer S's frame.
I guess they just want to make it clear
that the relativistically calculated time on the S' clock
is different from the time on clock S' as
actually physically observed by S through a telescope.

This is a common mistake by beginners and
they just want to make sure that everyone understands it correctly
 
but how would I go about calculating what observer S sees on the clock of S' through a telescope? That's the part I don't understand.
 
work backward
 

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