Special relativity: firecracker explode simulatenously, distance of observation?

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The discussion revolves around a problem in special relativity involving two firecrackers that explode simultaneously, with an observer positioned at different distances from each. The observer's perception of the timing of the explosions is questioned, particularly regarding the light travel time from each firecracker to the observer.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the implications of simultaneity in special relativity, questioning whether the observer sees the explosions simultaneously given her varying distances from each firecracker. There are attempts to calculate the time it takes for light to reach the observer from both firecrackers, with some participants expressing confusion over the provided values and the expected outcomes.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning the accuracy of the problem statement and the provided answer. There is a recognition of potential errors or missing information that could affect the interpretation of the problem.

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Participants note discrepancies in the calculations related to the distances and times given in the problem, leading to uncertainty about the correct approach to take. The original poster expresses confusion over the relationship between the distances and the time it takes for light to travel, suggesting a possible misunderstanding of the problem setup.

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I have a simple question... say two firecrackers explode simultaneously, and there's an observer in the same reference frame at rest. The observer is standing closer to one firecracker, but since she is at rest, does she observe them to explode simultaneously?
If not... I cannot find the equation I need to use to find the different times the light of the explosion reaches her eyes. (say she is standing 600 m from firecracker A, whose light reaches her eyes in 3.0 mu-s. and she is standing 300m from firecracker B).
Thanks =)
 
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Both fire crackers and the observer are at rest relative to each other?
Then you don't use relativity. Just d = vt for the motion of the light.
 


I thought so...

But I am really confused now.
The values in the problem is that a person is standing at x = 600m. firecracker 1 is at the origin, and firecracker 2 is at x = 900m. the firecrackers explode simultaneously. it is given that the light from firecracker one reaches the person's eyes in 3 microseconds. What time does she see the flash from firecracker 2?

The answer in the back of the book gives 2 microseconds. this makes no sense to me no matter which way i approach the problem. any help?
thanks
 


I can't think of a way to get that answer. I tried moving the observer 671 m away from the x-axis to get that 3 microseconds using the regular value for the speed of light. This gives 2.45 microseconds for the time the flash from the 2nd firecracker being seen. It matches the answer to 1 digit accuracy.

Have you precisely copied the question?
 


Girl is standing at x = 600m. firecracker 1, at origin, and firecracker 2 at x = 900m, explode simultaneously. the flash from firecracker 1 reach's girls eyes at t = 3.0 microseconds. at what time does she see the flash from firecracker 2?

im not even sure the correct way to approach the problem. when i use t = d/v to check the given number... its not even correct... 600m/3x10^8 gives me 2 microseconds, not 3. the back of the book gives me an answer of 2 microseconds for the time firecracker 2 reaches her eyes.

error possibly?
 


Either that or we are missing something.
 

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