Special Relativity: Length Contraction Problem

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The discussion focuses on solving a length contraction problem in special relativity involving the starship Enterprise and the starship Galactica. The Enterprise, measured at 4500 meters, travels at 0.8c while Galactica travels at 0.9c. The correct application of the length contraction formula, L = √(1 - v²/c²) L₀, leads to the conclusion that the Enterprise appears to be 684 meters long to Galactica's captain. The user struggled with calculating the relative velocity and applying the formula correctly, resulting in incorrect lengths of 3608.1 meters and 3706.9 meters.

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Hello! I have a small problem with a task professor gave us. I tried many options (you will see below) but I cannot seem to get the right solution. Any advice or guideline how to solve this would be really helpful. In advance I thank you for helping me.

Homework Statement


Our professor of physics has sense of humor, so he represented this task: starship Enterprise captain measures his ship to be ##4500## meters long. Enterprise passes Earth with velocity of ## 0.8 c_0 ##. In opposite direction, starship Galactica flies by with velocity of ##0.9 c_0##. Compute how long will Enterprise appear to Galactica's captain.

Homework Equations


Pretty obvious, this task will implement length contraction formula $$ L = \sqrt{1 - \frac{v^2}{c_0^2}} L_0 $$. Also, according to solutions, final result should be ##684## meters.

The Attempt at a Solution


OK, so I began with computing Enterprise's velocity according to Galactica. Using ## v_e' = \frac{0.8c_0 - 0.9c_0}{1 - \frac{0.9c_0 \cdot 0.8c_0}{c_0^2}} = 0.35714c_0 ## I though I should just simply insert this into length contraction formula. It returned ##3608.1## meters.
Now I decided to use slightly different procedure. I used ## L = \sqrt{1 - \frac{v_e' v_{galactica}}{c_0^2}} L_0 ## but it returned ##3706.9## meters.

At this point I lost all hope. I really wish someone would be able to help me with this one.
 
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peroAlex said:
OK, so I began with computing Enterprise's velocity according to Galactica. Using v′e=0.8c0−0.9c01−0.9c0⋅0.8c0c20=0.35714c0 v_e' = \frac{0.8c_0 - 0.9c_0}{1 - \frac{0.9c_0 \cdot 0.8c_0}{c_0^2}} = 0.35714c_0 I

The two ships must have a relative velocity of close to ##c##. How can ##0.357c## be right?
 
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PeroK said:
The two ships must have a relative velocity of close to ##c##. How can ##0.357c## be right?

I used equation ## v_e' = \frac{v_e - v_g}{1 - \frac{v_e v_g}{c_0^2}} ## to determine velocity of Enterprise according to Galactica.. Same equation appeared in previous example and in our textbook so I assumed it must be correct. It returned ## v_e' = 1.07068 \cdot 10^8 m/s ##. I think I must be missing an important step in all of this but I can't seem to find it.
 
peroAlex said:
I used equation ## v_e' = \frac{v_e - v_g}{1 - \frac{v_e v_g}{c_0^2}} ## to determine velocity of Enterprise according to Galactica.. Same equation appeared in previous example and in our textbook so I assumed it must be correct. It returned ## v_e' = 1.07068 \cdot 10^8 m/s ##. I think I must be missing an important step in all of this but I can't seem to find it.

Forget relativity for a moment. If two cars are coming at you from opposite directions at ##80km/h## and ##90km/h## respectively. The relative speed of the two cars is?

a) ##170km/h##

b) ##10km/h##
 

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