Special relativity - transformation of angle

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The discussion revolves around the transformation of angles in the context of special relativity, particularly focusing on the algebraic manipulation of quantities related to Lorentz transformations and energy-momentum considerations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various methods for solving the problem, including the original poster's algebraic approach and suggestions to consider energy-momentum transformations instead. Questions arise regarding the validity of the original method and the implications of simultaneity in relativity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the necessity of using Lorentz transformations rather than relying solely on length contraction. The original poster expresses confusion about their method, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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There are indications of missing information regarding the setup of the problem, particularly in relation to the frames of reference involved and the timing of events. The original poster's approach may have overlooked critical aspects of simultaneity in special relativity.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


Gamma factor:
$$\gamma = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\beta^2}} $$
Lorentz contraction
$$l'=\frac{l}{\gamma}$$
Trig:
$$ cos\theta = \frac{adjacent}{hypotenuse}$$

The Attempt at a Solution


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I have all the quantities but the algebra doesn't seem to work out.

Thank you in advance for any help
 
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You've probably approached it the wrong way. Think about energy-momentum transformations for light instead.
 
wow, that was soo easy. Thank you.

However what was wrong with my method? I understand why your way works, but why didn't mine?
 
Toby_phys said:
wow, that was soo easy. Thank you.

However what was wrong with my method? I understand why your way works, but why didn't mine?

There's a relativity of simultaneity issue that you missed. You need to use a Lorentz Transformation on the x-coordiate, not simply a length contraction.
 
Oh ok, thank you
 
I found my notes on this. If we do things in the Earth's frame first, with light emitted at ##t=0## with the star at ##(0,0)## and the Earth at ##(x,y)##, then ##\tan \theta = \frac{y}{x}##

Note that the light reaches Earth at ##t = \frac{r}{c}## where ##r^2 = x^2 + y^2##

In the star's frame, the light is emitted from ##(0,0)## at ##t'=0## and reaches the Earth at ##(x', y') = (\gamma(x-vt), y)## at some time ##t'## that isn't important.

So, ##\tan \theta' = \frac{y'}{x'} = \frac{y}{\gamma(x-vt)} = \frac{y}{\gamma(x-vr/c)}##

If you work through that and do a bit of trig manipulation, you should get the same answer.
 

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