Special Relativity Velocity Addition: Vector or Axis?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of the velocity addition formula in special relativity, specifically whether it applies as a vector or is restricted to objects moving along the same axis. Participants explore scenarios involving objects moving in different directions and the implications for calculating their velocities in various frames of reference.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the velocity addition formula and questions whether it applies only to objects traveling along the same axis.
  • Another participant asserts that the formula is valid only for motion along one axis, referencing the non-relativistic limit as evidence.
  • A third participant reiterates the concern about calculating velocities for objects moving in perpendicular directions, suggesting that the formula is limited to parallel velocities.
  • A later reply points out a potential sign error in the denominator of the formula and mentions that a different formula is needed for perpendicular velocities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are competing views regarding the applicability of the velocity addition formula to different directional motions.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the assumption that the formula is only valid for parallel velocities and the potential need for different formulations when dealing with perpendicular velocities.

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I know how to add speed in special relativity.

[tex]v=\frac{u+v'}{1-\frac{uv'}{c^2}}[/tex]

Is this a vector thus velocity? Or does this only apply to objects traveling on the same axis? Judging from the way it's derived, I really think that it only applies to objects on the same axis. What if I want to look at say...an object going north and an object going east in the rest frame. What then is their velocity in the frame of one of the objects?
 
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It's only for motion along one axis. You can check this yourself: if you consider the non-relativistic limit, you only get the right answer for motion along one axis.
 
E92M3 said:
What if I want to look at say...an object going north and an object going east in the rest frame. What then is their velocity in the frame of one of the objects?
As you realize, the formula you quoted (once you correct the sign error in the denominator) is only for the special case of parallel velocities. Read about the more general case here: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/velocity.html"
 
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You should have a plus sign in the denominator.
There is a different formula for u and v perpendicular.
 

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