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The discussion revolves around a particle physics problem involving the interaction of a cosmic ray proton with a microwave background photon, resulting in the production of a pion. The participants are exploring the minimum energy required for this event to occur, considering the rest masses of the involved particles and the conservation laws applicable to the scenario.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of energy and momentum, with one suggesting the use of the center-of-mass frame to simplify the analysis. Questions arise regarding the implications of particles being at rest in this frame and the nature of their motion post-interaction.

Discussion Status

The conversation is active, with participants providing feedback on proposed methods and clarifying concepts related to energy distribution in particle interactions. There is a focus on understanding the conditions necessary for the minimum energy scenario, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of relativistic particle interactions, including the need to account for both energy and momentum conservation in their analysis. The problem setup includes specific rest masses and energy values that frame the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Consider the event ## p + \gamma \to p + \pi ##, where ##p## is a cosmic ray of a proton, ##\gamma## is a microwave background photon, and ##\pi## is a generated meson. What is the minimum energy of the proton for such an event to happen? Proton has a rest mass of 1 GeV/c2, π particle has a rest mass of 100 MeV/c2, and microwave background photon has an energy of 2.5*10^-4 eV.

Homework Equations


Conservation of energy and momentum equations.
$$ E = mc^2 $$

The Attempt at a Solution


From conservation of energy, we get the equation:
$$
\begin{align*}
E_i &= E_f \\
E_{p_i} + E_{\gamma} &= E_{p_f} + E_{\pi} \\
E_{p_i} + 2.5 \times 10^{-4} &= \gamma_{p_f}(1 \times 10^6) + \gamma_{\pi}(1 \times 10^5)
\end{align*}
$$

In order to minimize the energy of the initial proton, is it reasonable to simply set the gammas on the right side equal to 1 (i.e. let them be at rest)?
 
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Nope, that would violate the conservation of momentum.

Try solving the problem in the center-of-mass frame. In that frame, the resulting proton and pion will be at rest. Then transform the results back to the lab frame.
 
vela said:
Nope, that would violate the conservation of momentum.

Try solving the problem in the center-of-mass frame. In that frame, the resulting proton and pion will be at rest. Then transform the results back to the lab frame.

Thanks for the speedy response!

Could you explain why the resulting proton and pion would be at rest in the COM frame? Wouldn't that imply that the two are traveling together with the same velocity? Why couldn't they fly off in different directions wrt the COM?
 
Because you're looking for the minimum energy. Some of the energy goes into creating the pion. Any extra ends up as the kinetic energy of the resulting particles, so to find the minimum, you want the kinetic energy to be as small as possible.
 

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