Speed increases mass, which increases gravity?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between speed, mass, and gravity, particularly in the context of special relativity (SR) and general relativity (GR). Participants explore whether increased speed leads to increased mass and how this affects the curvature of spacetime, addressing both theoretical implications and observer-dependent perspectives.

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  • One participant questions if increased speed leads to increased mass and whether this added mass contributes to the curvature of spacetime, noting the observer-dependent nature of mass increase.
  • Another participant asserts that relativistic mass does not contribute to the curvature of spacetime.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that the source of gravity in general relativity is the stress-energy tensor, which consists of multiple components, indicating that mass alone is not the sole source of gravity.
  • It is noted that in special relativity, gravity is not present, and mass does not curve spacetime, while in general relativity, spacetime curvature is influenced by the stress-energy tensor, which varies with different frames of reference.

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Participants express differing views on the role of relativistic mass in spacetime curvature and the nature of gravity, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without consensus.

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There are unresolved aspects regarding the dependence of the stress-energy tensor on the frame of reference and the implications of relativistic mass in different contexts.

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So if speed increases mass as it approaches c, does the added mass increase the curvature of space-time? The reason why this question is making me confused is because the mass is only increased to an outside observer. Could anyone clarify this for me.
 
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Correct. Relativistic mass does not contribute to the curvature of spacetime.
 
The source of gravity in GR is the stress-energy tensor which has 10 independent components, only one of which is mass. So mass, by itself, is not the source of gravity.
 
In SR, there is no gravity, and mass does not curve spacetime.

In GR, spacetime curvature is caused by the stress-energy tensor, whose components are frame dependent. The relativistic mass is one component of the stress-energy tensor in some frames, and so does curve spacetime. In frames in which there is no relativistic mass, this is made up for by changes in other components of the stress-energy tensor, so that the spacetime curvature remains the same regardless of frame.
 
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