Speed of a projectile launched from the moon?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the initial speed of a projectile launched vertically from the Moon to an altitude of 370 km. The correct approach involves using gravitational potential energy and recognizing that gravitational acceleration is not constant at varying altitudes. The final calculations reveal that the initial velocity should be derived from the difference in gravitational potential energy at the surface and at 370 km, leading to a kinetic energy of 494064 J. The final velocity calculation must use the mass of the projectile, not the mass of the Moon, to determine the correct initial speed.

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Homework Statement



A projectile launched vertically from the surface of the Moon rises to an altitude of 370 km. What was the projectile's initial speed?

Homework Equations



h = 370,000 m
g moon = 1.62 m/s^2
G = 6.67x10^-11 N m^2/kg^2
Mass moon = 7.35x10^22 kg
Radius moon = 1.74X10^6 m

vf^2 = vi^2 - 2gh

The Attempt at a Solution



I calculated g on the moon to be 1.62 m/s^2. I then used kinematics (vf^2 = vi^2 - 2gh) and I get:

vf = 0
vi = ?
g = 1.62 m/s^2
vf^2 = Vi^2 - 2gh
solving for Vi = sqroot of Vf^2 + 2gh

I get initial velocity to be 1095.57 m/s. The answer is not correct, and I really don't understand what I'm doing wrong.
 
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Two methods
Conservation of energy
1/2mv^2 = mgh
Or motion equations:
v^2 = u^2 + 2gs (where final velocity is zero)

ps. g = 1.62m/s^2 for the moon is correct. Check your calculations
 
mgb_phys said:
Two methods
Conservation of energy
1/2mv^2 = mgh
Or motion equations:
v^2 = u^2 + 2gs (where final velocity is zero)

ps. g = 1.62m/s^2 for the moon is correct. Check your calculations

Thanks for your reply. I tried the equations again and I'm still getting the same answer. It is wrong and I don't understand why :(

Based on the conservation of energy equation you mentioned:
1/2mv^2 = mgh
1/2v^2 = gh
v^2 = 2gh
v = sqroot (2gh) = sqroot [(2)(1.62m/s^2)(370000m)]
v = 1095 m/s
 
Sorry the altitude is 370km so you can't assume that g is constant.
You need to do gravitational potential energy at the surface and at 370km - the difference is the KE

(Energy = GMm /r)
 
mgb_phys said:
Sorry the altitude is 370km so you can't assume that g is constant.
You need to do gravitational potential energy at the surface and at 370km - the difference is the KE

(Energy = GMm /r)

Ok, here is what I got using your advice:

GPE at the surface:
GMm/r = (6.67x10^-11 N m^2/kg^2)(7.35x10^22 kg) / 1.74x10^6 m = 2817500 J

GPE at 370km:
GMm/r = (6.67x10^-11 N m^2/kg^2)(7.35x10^22kg) / 370000m + 1.74x10^6 m = 2323436 J

2817500 J - 2323436 J = 494064 J = KE

Am I correct so far? Do I plug this number into 1/2mv^2 ?
 
Almost - you can't have Joules because you don't know the mass of the object (essentially you have assumed a 1kg mass) but that doesn't matter since you can also assume 1kg in the KE
 
I plugged in 494064 into KE = 1/2 mv^2

494064 = 1/2 (7.35x10^22kg) v^2
v = 3.66x10^-9

Does this sound correct?
 
No, the 'M' in that equation is the mass of the object you are throwing - not the mass of the moon.
 

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