How Does an Asteroid's Speed Change Upon Impact with Mars?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the speed of an asteroid upon impact with Mars, specifically addressing the challenges of using gravitational potential energy (GPE) due to the assumption of an infinite radius. Participants clarify that while the initial GPE can be considered zero at a large distance, the final velocity can be determined using the escape velocity formula, resulting in a calculated impact speed of 6180 meters per second. The conversation emphasizes the relationship between changes in GPE and kinetic energy (KE), concluding that the loss of GPE translates into an increase in KE as the asteroid approaches Mars.

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Homework Statement
A small asteroid of mass m = 1.50 × 10^13 kg collides with the planet Mars. The speed of the asteroid when it was very far from the planet was 3.60 × 10^3 m/s. Given that Mars has a mass M = 6.42 × 10^23 kg and a radius R = 3.39 × 10^6 m, and that the gravitational constant G = 6.67 × 10^−11 Nm^2/kg^2 the speed at which the asteroid impacts the Martian surface is:
A) 8.63 × 103 m/s.
B) 4.29 × 103 m/s.
C) 6.18 × 103 m/s.
D) 7.15 × 103 m/s.
Relevant Equations
u=-GMm/r
k = mv^2/2
Since the radius is "very far", I cannot find the total mechanical energy by using the gravitational potential energy formula and find the kinetic energy at impact. I can't think of any other way to find final velocity without knowing the radius.
 
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Tom4 said:
Since the radius is "very far", I cannot find the total mechanical energy by using the gravitational potential energy formula
You can. Try it.
 
haruspex said:
You can. Try it.
Well the potential energy would be 0 since I assume they mean the radius is infinite. But that doesn't make sense because it eventually impacts mars at a different speed. Right?
 
Solved:
##v^2 = v^2_i + v^2_f##
##v = \sqrt {v^2_i + v^2_f}##
Using escape velocity formula ##v = \sqrt \frac {2GM} {R}## for final velocity:
##v = \sqrt {v^2_i + \frac {2GM} {R}}##
v = 6180 meters per second
 
Tom4 said:
Solved:
##v^2 = v^2_i + v^2_f##
##v = \sqrt {v^2_i + v^2_f}##
Using escape velocity formula ##v = \sqrt \frac {2GM} {R}## for final velocity:
##v = \sqrt {v^2_i + \frac {2GM} {R}}##
v = 6180 meters per second
An odd way to do things but I think that gives the correct answer. If the initial distance is large then the initial GPE is zero then you can calculate the GPE at the surface and get the loss of GPE hence increase in KE.

Alternatively, just use a very large number for initial radius.
 
So ##\Delta U = \Delta KE##
Makes sense when you put it like that, thanks.
 
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Tom4 said:
So ##\Delta U = \Delta KE##
Makes sense when you put it like that, thanks.
In terms of magnitudes, yes. Or ##-\Delta U = \Delta KE## to be precise.

Which means, of course ##\Delta U + \Delta KE = 0##
 
Tom4 said:
Well the potential energy would be 0 since I assume they mean the radius is infinite. But that doesn't make sense because it eventually impacts mars at a different speed. Right?
Why doesn’t it make sense? Remember that when it hits Mars its GPE will be negative.
 

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