Spherical capacitor (Irodov 3.101.)

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The problem involves finding the capacitance of an isolated ball-shaped conductor surrounded by a dielectric layer. The context is within electrostatics, specifically focusing on capacitors and electric fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the potential difference calculation involving two integrals, questioning the necessity and meaning of the second integral from R2 to infinity. There are attempts to clarify the application of Gauss's Law and the behavior of the electric field in the given setup.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants seeking clarification on the reasoning behind the two integrals in the potential difference calculation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Gauss's Law and the nature of the electric field in the problem, but no consensus has been reached on the interpretation of the second integral.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of an exterior grounded spherical shell and the implications this has on the electric field and potential calculations. There is also mention of the need to consider the displacement vector in the analysis.

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Homework Statement


Find the capacitance of an isolated ball-shaped conductor of radius R1 sorrounded by an adjacent concentric layer of dielectric with permitivity ε and outside radius R2.


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The official solution says something like:

Difference of potentials is --- int(R1,R2)(E*dr) + int(R2,∞)(E*dr)

Sorry, but I don't know how to write equations nicely.
I don't quite understand what is the second integral here for. Can someone explain?
 
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The electric field only exists between the two conductors, and they carry equal by magnitude, but opposite by sign charges [itex]Q[/itex], and [itex]-Q[/itex], respectively. Using Gauss's Law, you should get:
[tex] E(r) = \frac{Q}{4 \pi \epsilon} \, \frac{1}{r^2}[/tex]
and the direction is along the radius.

The potential difference is:
[tex] V_1 - V_2 = \int_{R_1}^{R_2}{E(r) \, dr} = \frac{Q}{4 \pi \epsilon} \, \int_{R_1}^{R_2}{\frac{dr}{r^2}}[/tex]

To perform this integral, I suggest you use the following subsitution:
[tex] r = A \, x^\alpha \Rightarrow dr = A \, \alpha \, x^{\alpha - 1} \, dx[/tex]
Then, the integrand becomes:
[tex] \frac{A \, \alpha \, x^{\alpha - 1} \, dx}{A^2 \, x^{2\alpha}} = \frac{\alpha}{A} \, x^{-1 - \alpha} \, dx[/tex]
What would be the most convenient choice for [itex]\alpha[/itex]? Does it depend what you choose for [itex]A[/itex] (look at how the bounds of integration are changing)?
 
Thank you for the reply.

I know how to solve integrals. What I don't know is... Why are there two integrals in the official solution for potential difference? One from R1 to R2 and the other from R2 to infinity. If you don't have it, the soultions for irodov are available online so if you could check it out and tell me what the second integral is there for, that would be great.
 
I haven't seen the solution online. If you know the link, post it here.

There is an integral from [itex]R_2[/itex] to [itex]\infty[/itex] because the electric field is not zero, since there is no exterior grounded spherical shell. I misread the formulation of the problem.

By the way, you should use Gauss's Law for the dispalcement vector [itex]\vec{D}[/itex], which is

Flux of D = total enclosed free charge

and then find [itex]E = D/\epsilon[/itex] in the corresponding region. You can see that the electric field is discontinuos at the boundary.

Effectively, you have two spherical capacitors connected in series.
 
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