Spherical surface surrounding charges find flux

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric flux through a spherical surface surrounding a collection of charges, specifically focusing on scenarios involving both positive and negative charges. The subject area is electrostatics, particularly Gauss's law and electric flux concepts.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of Gauss's law and the relationship between enclosed charge and electric flux. There are attempts to calculate electric fields and flux, with some confusion about the necessary equations and the role of the permittivity constant.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using the correct formula for electric flux, while others express confusion about the calculations and the signs of the results. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the use of constants and the significance of charge signs.

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There is mention of potential confusion between different constants (k and εo) and the precision required in answers, as well as concerns about the correctness of submitted answers in an online homework system.

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A spherical surface completely surrounds a collection of charges. Find the electric flux (with its sign) through the surface if the collection consists of (a) a single +5.5 x 10-6 C charge, (b) a single -4.8 x 10-6 C charge, and (c) both of the charges in (a) and (b).

Ok, so this is what I've been able to figure out:
Ea=kq1/r^2=49445/r^2

Eb=kq2/r^2=-43152/r^2

and for part c: Ea + Eb = 6293/r^2

I'm just so confused as to how to get rid of the r^2.. Have I used the wrong equation entirely? Thanks so much to anyone who can help!
 
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The total of the electric flux out of a closed surface is equal to the charge enclosed divided by the permittivity.

so then for example on part a, would I not just take:

q/k = (5.5x10^-6)/(8.99x10^9) = 6.117x10^-16

?? I know that's not right but I don't understand why. Do I have the sign backwards?
 
phys62 said:
The total of the electric flux out of a closed surface is equal to the charge enclosed divided by the permittivity.

so then for example on part a, would I not just take:

q/k = (5.5x10^-6)/(8.99x10^9) = 6.117x10^-16

?? I know that's not right but I don't understand why. Do I have the sign backwards?

Φ = Q/εo

But you used the right value.

If the charge is - then the flux is -, meaning that it points towards the charge. If + it would be pointing outward through the closed surface.
 
so you're saying my answer is right then, right? I submitted it on my online homework thing, and it says I'm incorrect :/
 
phys62 said:
so you're saying my answer is right then, right? I submitted it on my online homework thing, and it says I'm incorrect :/

Do they want 6.1 instead of 6.117, since they only gave you 5.5 for the charge in the first place?

I ask in case this is something your instructor likes to do.
 
No, our answers can be to whatever decimal point we want, just as long as it's within +/- 2% of the correct answer
 
Ohhh. lol. okay, now if only I knew what eo was..
 
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oh wait... ok so the equation is Φ = Q/εo

do I just need to solve for Eo?
 
  • #11
I see! lol thanks so much for your help! :]
 

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