Spiral path in polar coordinates problem

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The discussion focuses on the motion of a bee following a spiral path defined by polar coordinates: r = b*ekt and θ = ct, where b, k, and c are positive constants. Participants analyze the relationship between the velocity vector (v) and the acceleration vector (a) to demonstrate that the angle between these vectors remains constant as the bee moves outward. The key insight is that the expression v · a/va simplifies to cos(θ), indicating that the angle does not change over time, confirming that the angle between the velocity and acceleration vectors is indeed constant.

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A bee goes from its hive in a spiral path given in plane polar coordinates by
r = b*ekt , θ = ct,
where b, k, c are positive constants. Show that the angle between the velocity vector and the
acceleration vector remains constant as the bee moves outward. (Hint: Find v · a/va.)


attempts.

v=r[dot]r[hat]+(r)θ[dot]θ[hat]

a=(r[double dot]-rθ[dot]^2)r[hat]+(rθ[double dot]+2r[dot]θ[dot])θ[hat]

r[prime]=bke^kt

r[double prime]= bk^(2)e^kt

θ[prime]=c

I know that v · a/va = vacosθ/va = cosθ, but I am unsure what to do with this knowledge or where to go from here,

thanks guys
 
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Well, if the angle between the two vectors is a constant, then the time derivative of that angle should be constant, correct?

Also, be careful. Is it correct to say that the angle between the two vectors (cos\phi) is the same as the angle given to you ( \theta = ct).
 
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Ah I see, so I should basically show that (va)cos(theta)/va cancels out to leave cos(theta), the time derivative of which is constant, showing that my angle is constant?
 
Also, if the angle between my two vectors is not theta, would it be v, since that seems to point in the same direction?

EDIT: So I want to show that cosθ=va/va, and that this equals a constant, so is a constant
 
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Remember what a dot product is:
\vec{r_{1}}\cdot \vec{r_{2}} = x_{1}x_{2} + y_{1}y_{2} + z_{1}z_{2} = |r_{1}||r_{2}|cos \phi
You can either sum of the product of the components of the two vectors or multiply there magnitudes times the angle between the vectors. You can use the above equation to solve for \phi and see if it has any time dependence. I am not convinced that the angle between the velocity and acceleration vectors is \theta = ct. And if it were, \theta is not constant in time.
 
Koi9 said:
EDIT: So I want to show that cosθ=va/va, and that this equals a constant, so is a constant

Precisely.
 

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