Spontaneous Fission: Isotope Decay?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of spontaneous fission and its relation to isotope decay, specifically whether there are isotopes that decay solely through spontaneous fission and the conditions under which this occurs. It touches on theoretical aspects, historical occurrences, and specific examples related to natural fission reactors.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that there are nuclides where spontaneous fission is the only decay mode, although these have never been observed due to their extremely long expected lifetimes.
  • One participant mentions the Oklo natural reactors as a historical example of fission occurring under specific conditions, noting that the fraction of fissile uranium was higher in the past.
  • Another participant reiterates the significance of Oklo, providing details about the historical context and the decline of U-235 in natural uranium over time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the existence of nuclides that may decay solely through spontaneous fission, but there is no consensus on the observation of such decays. The discussion about Oklo reflects a shared understanding of its historical significance, though details about its current state and implications may vary.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the uncertainties surrounding the conditions necessary for spontaneous fission or the specific characteristics of the nuclides mentioned. There are also assumptions regarding the stability and decay modes of isotopes that remain unexamined.

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Are there isotopes that decay only through spontaneous fission, or in other words can normally stable nuclei decay through spontaneous fission?
 
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There are a few nuclides where spontaneous fission is the only possible decay mode (apart from proton decay maybe), but it has never been observed and the expected lifetime is so long that it is unlikely that we will ever see such a decay.
As usual, Wikipedia has a list.
 
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mfb said:
There are a few nuclides where spontaneous fission is the only possible decay mode (apart from proton decay maybe), but it has never been observed and the expected lifetime is so long that it is unlikely that we will ever see such a decay.
As usual, Wikipedia has a list.

Thank you. This is really interesting.
 
I thought there were a few places in Africa where there were streams trickling over uranium deposits. The water acted like a moderator to enable fission until it became so hot the water boiled away. The fission reaction shut down due to lack of slow energy neutrons. The water comes back and the fission restarts.
 
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Oklo is the most prominent place. It happened in the past, when the fraction of fissile uranium was higher. Today it is too low.
 
mfb said:
Oklo is the most prominent place. It happened in the past, when the fraction of fissile uranium was higher. Today it is too low.
The natural reactors at Oklo were active about 1.7 billion years ago. At that time, the percentage of U-235 in uranium deposits was several times the current fraction of 0.7% found in natural uranium. Since that time, the percentage of U-235 has declined, because its half-life is roughly 700 million years or so.

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