Is the potential barrier of a nucleus related to its binding energy and size?

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between the potential barrier of a nucleus, its binding energy, and its size, particularly in the context of spontaneous fission and α-decay. Participants explore theoretical aspects, including tunneling probabilities and the stability of heavy nuclei compared to lighter ones.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the potential barrier for spontaneous fission is influenced by the superposition of surface tension energy and Coulomb potential, and questions how this relates to binding energy.
  • Another participant speculates that heavier elements have lower binding energy per nucleon, which may contribute to their tendency to undergo spontaneous fission.
  • It is noted that heavy nuclei are inherently unstable due to the balance between binding energy and Coulomb repulsion, leading to potential fission.
  • A participant raises a question about the relationship between the height of the potential barrier and binding energy, seeking clarification on whether they are equivalent.
  • One response affirms that the potential barrier height is related to the binding energy, but leaves the second part of the question open for further expert input.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the relationship between binding energy, potential barriers, and the stability of nuclei. There is no clear consensus on the specifics of these relationships, and some questions remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the Gamov function and tunneling probabilities, indicating a dependence on the mass of the fragments involved. The discussion also highlights the complexity of nuclear forces and their effects on stability, which may not be fully addressed.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying nuclear physics, particularly in understanding the dynamics of nuclear stability, fission processes, and the implications of binding energy in heavy nuclei.

sunrah
Messages
191
Reaction score
22
I am confused about spontaneous fission. My basic understanding is that like α-decay the tunnel effect is responsible. We have a potential barrier caused by the superposition of surface tension energy and coulomb potential through which an energised nuclear fragment can tunnel with a certain probability.

How does the potential barrier of the nucleus relate to its binding energy? I have read that in reality it is only very large nuclei that undergo spontaneous fission; these nuclei have have lower binding energies per nucleon. How does reduction in B/A effect size of potential barrier? Also in class we have derived the tunneling probability

T \propto e^{-2G}

where G is the Gamov funktion. I have read that G \propto m and that heavier particles/fragments have lower tunneling probability that is why α-decay is much more common than spontaneous fission of heavy nuclei. If so why are heavy nuclei more likely to fission spontaneously than lighter ones?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
thanks but I have already read those pages enough :)
 
Here is a speculation. Of elements heavier than iron, the heavier the element the less binding energy per nucleon.

Of course elements lighter than iron can't spontaneously fission at all.
 
just to add to what anorlunda already said , heavy nuclei can fission spontaneously and deliberately because they are unstable to begin with , it has to do with the proton neutron number as it gets too big the nuclear force which holds everything together ( like glue) is having a hard time to hold the big structure together and it can break apart.
Small nuclei which have few protons and neutrons ( Hydrogen being the smallest one proton one electron) are very sable , few particles holding strongly together.
 
thanks for the replies!

so these large nuclei are unstable to begin with because the binding energy per nucleon drops significantly whilst coulomb repulsion increases causing strong oscillations/deformation in the ground state?

also I couldn't find a definite answer to this: is the height of the potential barrier Ef above the ground state equal to the binding energy Eb ? are they one and the same? here is what I mean

http://www.kutl.kyushu-u.ac.jp/seminar/MicroWorld3_E/3Part3_E/3P33_E/fission_barrier_E.jpg
 
as for the first one the answer is yes.
as for the second i will let some more experienced people comment , but as far as I know you can tell how strongly something was held together by calculating how much force it took you to break it apart , now to my understanding this would also be the case to your question number too and I tend to think the answer should be yes.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 28 ·
Replies
28
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 24 ·
Replies
24
Views
4K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
4K
Replies
1
Views
1K