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Spread the rumor-Samsung does not have actual HD DVD players

  1. Aug 25, 2008 #1

    GCT

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    I bought a Samsung DVD player which had HD written all over the box only to learn yesterday that it does not play HD DVD discs. The " HD " that they are referring to apparently is some kind of upconversion of regular DVDs to a slightly higher resolution. Samsung only manufactures devices that play regular DVDs as well as Bluray however not HD DVD players. Spread the news. So much for Planet Earth in HD, if anyone is interested in buying the latter PM me.
     
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  3. Aug 25, 2008 #2
    Can't you return it? Clearly false-advertisement.
     
  4. Aug 25, 2008 #3

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    HD-DVD is a dead format and Samsung stopped making/selling HD-DVD players a while back. You can't buy new HD-DVD players anymore.
    If you want to watch HD films you need to buy a Bluray player AND have a TV/projector that supports HD.
    Note that "HD" usually refers to high-defintion nowadays, i.e. players that can output a HD signal (like 1080p), for DVD-players that means upconversion.
     
  5. Aug 25, 2008 #4
    The "higher resolution" is an advertising fad, as these devices do not increase the resolution of the DVD. Rescaling is a double edge sword since every method has its advantages and disadvantages.
     
  6. Aug 25, 2008 #5
    Sony has a similar set out. It will Have HDMI i on the front. They make no claims except higher resolution on the box, but the salesman at Best Buy was really pushing them as being HD.
     
  7. Aug 25, 2008 #6

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    Just out of curiosity, were you really intentionally out to buy an HD-DVD player, despite the fact that it is a dead format?

    Zz.
     
  8. Aug 25, 2008 #7
    The demise of formats is happening ever quicker. VHS lasted for over 20 years, DVD for about ten. Makes me wonder how long blue ray will be around until it is replaced by a memory card of some kind.
     
  9. Aug 25, 2008 #8
    Doesn't the Xbox 360 use HD DVD?
     
  10. Aug 25, 2008 #9

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    It was a gift , as I mentioned it had HD written all over it. That got me excited to buy an HD DVD - Planet Earth. By the way, I recently won a bid for an HD DVD player by a dollar margin at $ 44 , it's a Toshiba 1080 progressive scan, hopefully there aren't any more complications after this. I'm just not interested in upgrading to full scale Bluray at the moment especially when the price is over two hundred dollars.

    BTW which TVs are compatible with Bluray? I have a Samsung HDTV 1080.
     
  11. Aug 25, 2008 #10

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    Technically, any HDTV is "compatible" with Blu-Ray. However, to get the best possible picture, you need at least an HDMI capability on your HDTV monitor.

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  12. Aug 25, 2008 #11

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    Confirmed , so I'm going to consider Bluray, meanwhile need to buy an HDMI cable.
     
  13. Aug 25, 2008 #12
    I recommend you don't buy one of those hyped up brand name cables, HDMI cables either work or they don't as the signal is digital.
     
  14. Aug 25, 2008 #13

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  15. Aug 25, 2008 #14

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    Not a good analogy. HD DVD died fast because it lost a format war. That makes it analagous to Beta, not VHS.

    DVD has been around for something like 15 years.
     
  16. Aug 25, 2008 #15

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    I suspect you read something you wanted to read, not something that was actually there.

    I'd be curious to know what the box actually said, but on their website, the products are categorized as "Hi Def Conversion".
     
  17. Aug 25, 2008 #16

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    In principle this is true. In practice, though, the difference between HDMI and component video (three red, green and blue RCA-type jacks) is often very very small and can go either way. On the A/V forum that I hang on a lot when I'm not on PF, the question often comes up, "which is better, HDMI or component?" The most common answer is always, "Try both and see for yourself which is better in your system."

    In fact, unless you're in a real hurry, it's a mistake to buy any cables from places like Best Buy or Circuit City. Their markup on cables is astronomical. Try a reputable online dealer like Monoprice, for example. I'm sure there are others, but that's the one that I've bought most of my HDMI cables from.
     
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  18. Aug 25, 2008 #17

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    What's the distinction between this statement of "Hi Def Conversion " of regular DVDs and an actual capability for HD? Right , the former does not mean **** as Mejennifer has pointed out. How much more clearer can it get? It plays HD or it doesn't, you should'nt even insinuate HD if it doesn't play HD, btw with respect to my experience there is no merit to their " Hi Def Conversion " statement .

    People want HD. They shouldn't get anything else because there is another form of HD that they are ignorant of and don't even want. "Oh yeah, there's a new special form of HD that we don't display here at Bestbuy however........ you need to buy this DVD player to find out.
     
  19. Aug 25, 2008 #18

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    There are two aspects to this:

    1. I have tried component video on both high def monitors that I have (one is a rear projection, the other is a plasma), and they are noticeably not as good as the HDMI connection.

    2. Especially with the newer components, you only need one HDMI connection to get both the video and audio to your receiver, rather than separate connections for each one of them. It makes for a very easy and convenient hookup of one's entertainment system, especially when one have other components plus 7.1 speakers.

    I definitely agree about the mark-up that Best Buy takes up on such items. A bit of comparison shopping online will get you a much better deal, even if you include shipping and handling. I wouldn't know about Circuit City because I stopped buying anything from them ever since they came up with the stupid DIVX discs when DVD was being introduced.

    Zz.
     
  20. Aug 25, 2008 #19
    I don't remember widescale public use going that far back.

    http://www.didyouknow.cd/dvd/dvdhistory.htm

    They were very damned expensive.

    The original DVD format also had two different versions in the beginning MMCD and SD.

    Instead of duking it out in the market Like Sony's Beta and everyone Else's VHS, manufacturers made a decision on a format before the units went into world wide distribution.
     
  21. Aug 25, 2008 #20

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    In your setup, that's the case. This is a situation where "your mileage may vary." In my case, any difference between my TV's HDMI and component inputs is mainly in the brightness and contrast of the picture, as far as I can tell, and can be mostly eliminated by adjusting the picture controls separately for each input (which my set allows me to do). I've got only a 32-inch LCD, though...

    That is definitely a plus. If I had enough HDMI inputs on my TV, I'd use HDMI for everything. All my video components do have HDMI outputs. Unfortunately my TV has only one HDMI input. :frown: I use a 3-way HDMI switch, but that's not enough to accommodate my HD tuner, HD DVRs, and DVD players/recorders. So I have to use component video for the rest, with a component-video switch. Fortunately, the mess of cables isn't too visible from the front.
     
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