Spring Compression and block of mass

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a block of mass sliding down a frictionless incline and compressing a spring upon contact. The context is centered around energy conservation principles in mechanics, specifically relating to gravitational potential energy and spring potential energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of energy conservation, questioning the relationship between gravitational potential energy and spring potential energy. There is an attempt to clarify the correct height to use in calculations based on the incline.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using conservation of energy to approach the problem, suggesting a clearer formulation of the energy balance. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct height to consider in the calculations, with multiple interpretations being discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating potential unit inconsistencies and the correct application of energy principles, particularly in the context of the incline's geometry and the spring's compression.

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Homework Statement


A block of mass 12.0kg slides from rest down a frictionless 35degree
incline and is stopped by a strong spring with a force constant of
3.00 x 10^4 N/m. The block slides 3.00m from the point of release
to the point where it comes to rest against the spring. When the block
comes to rest, how far has the spring been compressed?


Homework Equations


W=deltaK
Vf^2 = vi^2 + 2a(deltay)
Wg + Ws = delta K
-mg + 1/2kx^2 = 1/2m(vi^2)


The Attempt at a Solution



I drew my picture and forces and then
I solved for the velocity at the moment it makes contact at the spring
Vf = sqrt(Vi^2 + 2(9.8m/s^2)(sin35)(3.0m) = 5.81m/s

Then I used -mg + 1/2kx^2 = 1/2m(vi^2)
I rearranged to be
x = sqrt 2(1/2mv^2 + mg)/K

x = sqrt 2(1/2)(12kg)(5.81)^2 + (12kg)(9.8m/s^2)(sin35) / 3.00 x 10^4 N/m

x = 540/30000
x = .018m
The book says .116m
I must not be on the right track. Any help would be appreciated.
Kevin
 
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What you have wrong here is you are mixing units. You have force - energy = energy.

Here is a simple way to look at the problem with conservation of energy.

When the object is released, all energy is gravitational potential energy.
When it comes to rest, on the spring, all energy has become spring potential energy (if you take the maximum compression of the spring to he h=0).

Therefore write your equation as: mg\Delta h = \frac{1}{2} kx^2

You know m, g, h and k. Solve for x.
 
That makes more sense. I'll try that.
Thank you,
Kevin
 
Is the h sin35?
Kevin
 
not just sin(35), it's 3sin(35) because it's the height equivelant of 3 metres down the plane.
 
That makes sense.
Thanks again,
Kevin
 

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