Spring Compression at kinetic energy = 0

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The problem involves a block on an inclined plane interacting with a spring. The block is projected towards the spring, and the task is to determine the distance the spring is compressed when the block comes to rest. The subject area includes concepts of energy conservation, specifically kinetic and potential energy, as well as spring mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of gravitational potential energy and how it relates to the compression of the spring. There is exploration of the correct expression for energy conservation, questioning whether to include the distance to the spring or the total distance traveled by the block.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on considering the gravitational potential energy changes and the relationship between kinetic energy and spring energy. Multiple interpretations of the energy equations are being explored, with some participants clarifying the correct approach to include the vertical distance traveled by the mass.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on understanding the energy transformations involved in the problem, and participants are navigating through the assumptions about the distances involved in the energy equations.

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Homework Statement


An inclined plane of angle θ = 20.0° has a spring of force constant k = 460 N/m fastened securely at the bottom so that the spring is parallel to the surface as shown in the figure below. A block of mass m = 2.51 kg is placed on the plane at a distance d = 0.324 m from the spring. From this position, the block is projected downward toward the spring with speed v = 0.750 m/s. By what distance is the spring compressed when the block momentarily comes to rest?

Homework Equations


K = 1/2 mv^2
Elastic Potential energy of spring = 1/2 kx^2

The Attempt at a Solution


So first I found the acceleration of the object:
gsin(θ) = a

Then I found the velocity of the mass at the time it hits the spring
d = vt +1/2 at^2
t is about .269593
so velocity when the object hits the spring = v+at which is about 1.654

Then I had: 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2 kx^2
solving for x, I got about 0.122 meters
However, the website to send the answer says I'm wrong. I have looked this up online, and I have substituted my values into other peoples equations and I still get 0.122
Thanks in advance!
 
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Think of the change of gravitational potential energy while the spring is being compressed.

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Consider the involved energies - kinetic and potential energy of the block and the energy stored in the compressed spring.
 
Okay so gravitational potential energy is mgy. Would y just be the distance of the object to the spring, or would it be the distance plus x (the distance the spring compressed). So either:
mg(d+x) + 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2 kx^2
or
mg(d) + 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2 kx^2
 
Abid Rizvi said:
Okay so gravitational potential energy is mgy. Would y just be the distance of the object to the spring, or would it be the distance plus x (the distance the spring compressed). So either:
mg(d+x) + 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2 kx^2
or
mg(d) + 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2 kx^2
Neither. It is the vertical distance the mass travels from initial to final position (maximum compression in this case).
 
Um, but isn't d+x the initial position to the position of maximum compression?
 
Okay I got it!
mg*sin(theta) * (d+x) + 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2 kx^2 works.
Thank you guys for all of your help!
 
That's correct, yes.
The gravitational potential energy and the kinetic energy at the top
is converted to the stored elastic enregy of the spring when the block
comes momentarily to rest at the bottom.
 

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