Spring length hanging down and horizontal

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a spring when positioned vertically versus horizontally, specifically regarding its length and the factors affecting its stretch due to gravity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the idea that a spring hanging vertically may stretch more due to its own weight contributing to the force of gravity. Questions arise regarding whether the entire mass of the spring or just the portion below the equilibrium point contributes to this stretch.

Discussion Status

Some participants affirm the initial assertion about the vertical position leading to greater stretch, while others seek clarification on the specifics of how mass distribution affects stretching and whether the equilibrium point changes as the spring stretches.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions regarding the mass distribution of the spring and its implications for stretching, with no definitive resolution yet reached.

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Homework Statement



is a spring longer hanging down or horizontal

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i think that the spring is longer hanging down because then its own mass contributes to the force of gravity, making it stretch more.
 
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That is correct. When vertical, its own weight contributes to its stretch.
 
correct.
 
LawrenceC said:
That is correct. When vertical, its own weight contributes to its stretch.

Would it be the springs entire mass? Or just the part under the equilibrium?
 
dav1d said:
Would it be the springs entire mass? Or just the part under the equilibrium?

if it was only the part under the equilibrium then half of the spring would be stretched and half would be uncompressed right?
Each coil on the spring weights any coils above it. so you should have the most stretching at the very top, I think.
 
dacruick said:
if it was only the part under the equilibrium then half of the spring would be stretched and half would be uncompressed right?
Each coil on the spring weights any coils above it. so you should have the most stretching at the very top, I think.

But doesn't the equilibrium point move as the spring stretches?
 

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