Spring Oscillation: Solve for Speed at t = 0.820s

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The problem involves the oscillation of a mass on a spring, described by a cosine function representing its position over time. The specific question is to determine the speed of the mass at a given time, with participants discussing the necessary parameters and calculations involved.

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  • Participants discuss the formula for velocity derived from the position function and question the need for a phase constant. There is also a consideration of unit conversion from centimeters to meters for consistency in calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on deriving the velocity from the position function and emphasized the importance of unit conversion. There is an acknowledgment of the phase constant's role, particularly when the initial displacement is not zero. The discussion appears to be progressing with various interpretations being explored.

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Participants are navigating the implications of unit conversions and the relevance of the phase constant in the context of the problem. The original poster seeks clarification and direction rather than a complete solution.

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Hello,

Ive been working on some oscillation problems and i got a couple of them correct (im suspecting flukes) but i can't get past this one:

The position of a mass that is oscillating on a spring is given by (17.5cm)cos[(11.0s^-1)t].
What is the speed of the mass when t = 0.820 s?

I believe I am supposed to use V = dx/dt = -A*w*sin(w*t + fi)

where A is amplitude, w is angular frequency t is time and fi is the phase constant. i think I am really having a problem understanding how to get the phase constant.

p.s. this is my first post and I'm only looking for a point in the right direction, not a completed solution. :D


cheers
 
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The original equation shows that the phase constant is zero.
 
It is always true that
[tex]v = \frac{dx}{dt}[/tex]
so given the formula for x(t) you can just derive it and get the velocity.

In the general case
[tex]x(t) = A \sin(\omega t + \phi)[/tex]
the derivative indeed becomes
[tex]v(t) = -A \omega \cos(\omega t + \phi)[/tex]
but you don't really need that here.
What you could observe from that formula, is that the phase does not matter in the result (e.g. it doesn't come in the pre-factor or anything, it just stays inside the trig function to keep it synchronized with the movement x(t)).
 
ok, should i be converting cm to m during my calculations? (im assuming the final answer should be in m/s)
 
It is alsways a good idea to convert units into the SI units, (eg metres, kilogramps, etc) and then convert the final answer into the units required - If a constant is involved in an equation, the units if the constant are normally SI Units, so if you don't convert them, your answer will be wrong.

The phase constant is simply used if the initial displacement is not 0 at t=0

Hope this all helps,

TFM
 
ok, all done. Thanks a lot. (mark as solved) 75.8 cm/s
 

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