Square-root and differential equations

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation involving a square root, specifically the expression dy/dt = √(C - y(t)²), where C is a constant and y is a function of time t. The original poster expresses concern about the implications of the square root and the conditions under which the solution remains valid, particularly regarding the argument of the square root being non-negative.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the condition C - y(t)² ≥ 0 and whether it is meaningful to consider this condition given that y(t) is time-dependent. There is mention of using separation of variables as a method to solve the equation, with some participants noting that the restrictions will hold for the solution.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the conditions under which the solution to the differential equation is valid, particularly focusing on the non-negativity of the square root's argument. There are multiple interpretations of the implications of the restrictions on y(t), and some guidance has been offered regarding the separation of variables method. Additionally, a side question about the nature of R² as an open set has been raised and addressed.

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The original poster emphasizes the need for rigor in a math-class context, which may influence the level of detail and precision expected in the discussion. There is also a mention of the necessity to comment on the argument of the square root, indicating a focus on mathematical rigor.

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Hi all

I have the following expression

[tex] \frac{dy}{dt}= \sqrt{C-y(t)^2},[/tex]

where C is a constant, and y is the variable, which depends on t. What I need to do is to solve this differential equation, but my problem is that this is a math-class (and not a physics-class), so I need to be very rigorous.

Now it is almost mandatory to comment of the argument of a squareroot. What I know is that the solution y is real.

Thus the term C-y(t) cannot be less than zero. But my question is: Does it make sense to talk about the term "C-y(t)" being less than zero, when y(t) is time-dependent?
 
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Sure, you can insist [itex]y^2(t) \le C[/itex] or [itex]|y(t)| \le \sqrt{C}[/itex] for all t. Obviously C will have to be positive. If you just go ahead and solve it by separation of variables you will find that restriction automatically holds for your solution.
 
LCKurtz said:
Sure, you can insist [itex]y^2(t) \le C[/itex] or [itex]|y(t)| \le \sqrt{C}[/itex] for all t. Obviously C will have to be positive. If you just go ahead and solve it by separation of variables you will find that restriction automatically holds for your solution.

Thanks. I must admit, I am not entirely sure what you mean when you say "restriction automatically holds for your solution.".

I have a final question, which is in no way related to this, but perhaps you can answer it anyway. Do you know if the set R2 (i.e. all of R2) can be considered as an open set?
 
Niles said:
Thanks. I must admit, I am not entirely sure what you mean when you say "restriction automatically holds for your solution.".
Just go ahead and solve the DE. The y(t) that you get will work under the square root sign with no problems about a negative under the square root.
I have a final question, which is in no way related to this, but perhaps you can answer it anyway. Do you know if the set R2 (i.e. all of R2) can be considered as an open set?

Yes. R2 is open. And closed.
 
Thanks! That was very kind of you.
 

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