Square Root Graph: Understanding x- & y- Intercepts

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The graph of the function y = √x - 4 only exists in the first quadrant and part of the fourth quadrant, with x-intercepts at (16, 0) and a y-intercept at (0, -4). The square root function is defined to return only the positive root to ensure it qualifies as a function, which is why it does not extend into the negative x-axis. While it is possible to graph equations that are not functions, such as circles or sideways parabolas, they do not pass the vertical line test and thus are not classified as functions. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the definition of a function and the conventions used in graphing square roots. Overall, the graph of y = √x - 4 represents a segment of a parabola that has been shifted downward by 4 units.
  • #31
Once again, no one said you can[t graph a relation that is not a function. A circle is the graph of a relation that is not a function. It fails the "vertical line test": any vertical line that passes through the graph does so only once.
The graph of (y+4)2= x is a "parabola lying on its side" but y is NOT a function of x. If x= 4, then y can be either -2 or -6: the vertical line x= 4 passes through the graph at both (4,-2) and (4,-6).

However, the function y= \sqrt{x} is defined as "the positive number whose square is x" and is a function. Then y= \sqrt{x}- 4 is the part of a parabola that starts at (0,-4) and rises upward and two the right. The functions domain is [0,\infty) and its range is [-4,\infty).
 
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  • #32
I recently got marked wrong on a calc test for this... my teacher gave us y= √ x (not ±) and x=3-2ysquared. We were supposed to find the area between the two curves and I got the wrong answer since y= √ x (not ±) was only the positive half of the parabola. She argued that it was the full parabola since we should've turned it into x= ysquared. Is that right? can you just suare both sides and magically get both halfs of the parabola? This doesn't make sense to me.
 
  • #33
The square root of x on a graph starts from zero and is infinite. X > zero for the square root of x where x is all real numbers. Square root of x - 4 is x > -4 where x is all real numbers and is infinite.
 
  • #34
Yersinia Pestis said:
Remember, every real number has a positive and a negative square root. Don't feel too bad about that mistake, most graphing application programmers seem to forget as well.

So, basically, it should look a bit like y=x^2 tipped on its side.


What do you mean bit like y=x^2.
you mean half parabola in 4th quadrant.
 
  • #35
Think of it as the branch of y = x^2 that is in the 1st quadrant "flipped" over y = x.
 
  • #36
lLovePhysics said:
What's so important about functions anyways? All they have are two y outputs for every x input right? Would it make a big difference (and get marked wrong) if I drew a horizontal parabola rather than just the top half??
No, they have one y output for every x input! If you were specifically asked to graph the function y= \sqrt{x} and graphed the entire parabola, yes you would be marked wrong. If you were asked to graph x= y2 (so y is a "relation", not a function of x, though now x is a function of y) then you should graph the entire parabola.

There is nothing terribly important about "functions" (except that they are somewhat simpler than "relations") in mathematics but they tend to be very important in applications of mathematics to science because of the requirement of "repeatability": if you do an experiment twice, with everything set up exactly the same way, you should get exactly the same result- one input, one output. "This causes that" gives functions.

Think of it this way: If you were to go to a store and find different products that had the same price, you would not be surprised, right? The "product" is not a function of the price. On the other hand, if you found exactly the same product, same size, brand, and everything, in the same store for two different prices, you would know that something was wrong: the price is a function of the product.
 

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