Square Root of Complex Numbers

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The discussion revolves around the derivation and understanding of the formula for finding square roots of complex numbers, specifically the expression for square roots of arbitrary complex numbers in the form \( z = a + bi \). Participants explore the origins of this formula, its applications, and whether similar formulas exist for n-th roots of complex numbers.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a formula for square roots of complex numbers and inquires about its derivation and the existence of analogous formulas for n-th roots.
  • Another participant derives the square root using equations based on the real and imaginary components of the complex number, providing a detailed mathematical approach.
  • Some participants suggest that the derivation could involve identities and De Moivre's theorem.
  • There is a suggestion to convert complex numbers to exponential form, manipulate the angles, and revert to normal form as a method for finding roots.
  • A later reply discusses the geometric interpretation of complex multiplication, particularly how it relates to rotations in the complex plane.
  • One participant introduces a different mathematical identity involving square roots and asks about its expansion through continuous fractions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various methods and perspectives on deriving the square root of complex numbers, but there is no consensus on a single derivation method or the existence of a non-polar form for n-th roots. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to these problems.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the conditions under which the formulas apply are not fully explored, and the discussion includes various mathematical steps that may require further clarification or validation.

littleHilbert
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Hi! I've got a question.
There is a nice formula for finding square roots of arbitrary complex numbers z=a+bi:

\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(\epsilon\sqrt{|z|+a}+i\sqrt{|z|-a}) where
epsilon:=sing(b) if b≠0 or epsilon:=1 if b=0.

I've just looked it up and it's nice to use it to find complex roots of quadratic equations with complex coefficients.

Where does it come from? I mean, squaring shows that it's true but how can one derive it from other facts? Is there a similar formula for n-th roots (not in polar form but analogous to that above)? Any info, links?
 
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LittileHilbrt;

Let y=c+id, where y^2=z.

Then; c^2-d^2+2i c*d=a+ib.

As a result; a=c^2-d^2 (eq1) and b=2c*d (eq2).

Therefore, from eq1 and eq2; c^2 = a + (b/c)^2/4 (eq3);

Solving eq3 in c^2, we get c^2={a+sqr(a^2+b^2)}^.5 /2

Therefore, c=(+/-) sqr({a+mod(z)}/2) (eq4 ),
{the other solution is rejected as c must be real}.

Then; z^1/2 = (+/-) y = (+/-) [c + id] = (+/-) [c+id] = (+/-) [sqr({a+mod(z)})+i sign(b)* sqr({[mod(z)]^2 –a^2} / {a+mod(z)})]/sqr(2)
= (+/-) [ sqr( a+mod(z) ) + i sign(b) * sqr({mod(z)–a} ] / sqr(2)
= (+/-) [sign(b) * sqr( a+mod(z) ) + i sqr({mod(z)–a} ] / [sqr(2)* sign(b)]
====> (+/-) [sign(b) * sqr( a+mod(z) ) + i sqr({mod(z)–a} ] / [sqr(2)]

Solving these equaitons when b=0 will need some modifications. By the way, when b is zero, z is real.

Amr Morsi.
 
It can probably be derived with few identities and Demoivre's theorem.
 
You could always convert the number to e^(x + iy) form, divide x and y by 2, convert back to normal form. I think that should work.
 
littleHilbert said:
Where does it come from? I mean, squaring shows that it's true but how can one derive it from other facts? Is there a similar formula for n-th roots (not in polar form but analogous to that above)? Any info, links?
littleHilbert,

When you multiply by a complex number, you are rotating the other number
by the angle the complex number makes with the x-axis.

For example, multiplication by "i" makes a rotation of 90 degrees. Therefore
a multiplication by the square of "i" makes a rotation of 180 degrees or -1.
Hence "i" is the square root of -1.

If you want the "n-th root" of a number; express it in polar form, and
divide the angle by "n". You will get the polar expression for the n-th
root. Use trigonometric identities to transform back into the non-polar
form in terms of the components of the original complex number.
Normalize appropriately if the modulus of the number is not unity.

That's how the formula you cite above is derived.

Dr. Gregory Greenman
Physicist
 
the question is..take the identity:

(\sqrt (-2)+1)(\sqrt (-2)-1)=-2 and expand it by a continuous fraction..what would we get..
 

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