Stable orbitals/absorption spectrum

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The discussion centers on the complexity of calculating stable orbitals for multielectron atoms and the relationship between these orbitals and the absorption/emission spectrum. Participants assert that the stability of orbitals is not a prerequisite for absorption; rather, the existence of certain energy states determines the frequencies absorbed. It is concluded that electrons do not "know" which states are stable; they simply occupy available states. The concept that orbital stability is secondary to the absorption spectrum is dismissed as incorrect.

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calculating the stable orbitals for multielectron atoms is so complex that AFAIK it can't be done accurately. so how does the electron in the ground state 'know' that if it jumps to a certain energy level that it will be stable? (which it apparently does know since it 'knows' exactly what frequency to absorb)

is it possible that the stability of the orbitals is secondary and the absorption and emission spectrum is primary. in other words that the atom doesn't absorb a certain frequency because certain orbitals are stable but rather the orbitals are stable because they correspond to certain frequencies that are characteristic of the absorption and emission spectrum.
 
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granpa said:
calculating the stable orbitals for multielectron atoms is so complex that AFAIK it can't be done accurately. so how does the electron in the ground state 'know' that if it jumps to a certain energy level that it will be stable? (which it apparently does know since it 'knows' exactly what frequency to absorb)
The electron doesn't need to "know" anything. Either the state exists or it doesn't, and if it exists, the electron can end up in it.

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is it possible that the stability of the orbitals is secondary and the absorption and emission spectrum is primary. in other words that the atom doesn't absorb a certain frequency because certain orbitals are stable but rather the orbitals are stable because they correspond to certain frequencies that are characteristic of the absorption and emission spectrum.
No. Stationary states are found without any reference to any mechanism that would allow for the transition between them.
 
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