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The discussion revolves around the concept of standing waves, specifically focusing on two strings with different lengths and harmonics. The original poster seeks clarification on the fundamental mode and how to approach the problem involving the ratio of tensions and frequencies of the strings.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the definitions and implications of standing waves and the fundamental mode. Some participants question how to derive the necessary relationships between tension, frequency, and wavelength. Others suggest considering the relationship between wave speed and tension.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing numerical answers while others seek to understand the underlying principles and formulas. There is a mix of attempts to clarify concepts and explore different approaches without reaching a consensus on the methods.

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The original poster expresses urgency due to a time constraint and indicates a lack of understanding regarding fundamental concepts, which may affect their ability to solve the problem effectively.

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Standing Waves help! 30 mins left.

Hello everyone who's here, so far I've been doing great on waves, but what the heck is standing eave?

Here is a problem that I kinda get, but not completely:

Two strings, with the same mass/length m oscillate with the same frequency f=2.00 Hz. The first string has length L1, tension T1 and vibrates in the fundamental mode (n=1). The second string has length L2, tension T2 and vibrates in the third harmonic (n=3). Assuming L2=2.30 L1:

a) What is the ratio T1/T2?

b) What would be the frequency of the second string if it oscillates in the mode n=1?

what the hell is fundamental mode?
please help, or at least give hints,
thanks a lot
 
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well it's kinda late now, and i got the answers here:

1) 1.70
2) 0.667 Hz

Can anyone tell me how to get them at least so i know how to do them on the test?? (formulas may be)?
 
Main fomulae:

L= (2n-1)(wavelength)/4

and velocity=(frequency)(wavelength)

where L=length of string
 
are u saying to find wavelength first?
what about the tension?
 
evgeniy said:
are u saying to find wavelength first?
what about the tension?

The speeds of the waves are equal to sqrt(tension/mass per unit length). Since the masses are the same, ratio of speeds will be the square root of the ratio of tensions.
 

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