What is the ratio of lengths for two vibrating strings with a beat frequency?

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The problem involves two vibrating strings of different lengths, L1 and L2, that produce a beat frequency when vibrating simultaneously. The context is within the study of wave mechanics, specifically focusing on the relationship between string length and frequency of vibration.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to relate the lengths of the strings to their fundamental frequencies and the beat frequency. Some participants question the meaning of the beat frequency in this context, while others seek clarification on the definitions and relationships involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring definitions and relationships related to beat frequency and string vibrations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definition of beat frequency, but there is no explicit consensus on the proof of the equations presented.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the application of certain equations and definitions, particularly concerning the beat frequency and its derivation. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the implications of simultaneous vibrations and the resulting beat frequency.

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Homework Statement


Two strings are stretched tautly parallel to each other. The length of one is L1 and the length of the other is L2(>L1). When both are simultaneously made to undergo fundamental vibration, beats can be heard at a frequency n. The waves in both strings travel at the same speed. Let us denote the fundamental freqency of the string with length L1 as f1.
Find the ratio ##\frac{L_2-L_1}{L_1}##

Homework Equations


The answer is ##\frac{L_2-L_1}{L_1}=\frac{n}{n-f_1}##

The Attempt at a Solution


I have some equation about wave in two strings:
##L_1=\frac{v}{2f_1}##
And
##L_1=i_1\frac{v}{2n};L_2=i_2\frac{v}{2n}##
But I can't solve as answer.
And What does
"When both are simultaneously made to undergo fundamental vibration, beats can be heard at a frequency n" mean?
Thanks for helping .
 
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Look up "beat frequency".
 
The beat frequency means F=|f1-f2| but it is definition or must prove?
 
Hamal_Arietis said:
The beat frequency means F=|f1-f2| but it is definition or must prove?
You can take it as given.
 
I want to prove this equation:
If we have 2 wave: ##y=Acos(2\pi f_1t)## and ##y'=Acos(2\pi f_2t)##
We have
$$x=y+y'=2A(cos(\pi (f_1- f_2)t)cos(\pi (f_1+f_2)t)$$
But why we don't use f=f1+f2 ?
 
Thanks
 

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