Stanford EPGY University Level Math courses?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Stanford EPGY (Education Program for Gifted Youth) university-level math courses, particularly their suitability for a junior college student majoring in math. Participants share their experiences, opinions on course content, and concerns regarding prerequisites and credit transferability.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in the EPGY program and questions its appropriateness for a junior college student.
  • Another participant shares a positive experience with EPGY classes taken in high school, noting the clarity of lectures and the provocative nature of problems.
  • A participant mentions specific courses of interest: PDEs, Elementary Real Analysis, and Complex Analysis, suggesting that these might transfer to their current institution based on syllabi and textbooks.
  • Concerns are raised about whether the EPGY program, primarily designed for high school students, would allow a junior college student to enroll.
  • A participant confirms they were allowed to take classes in the EPGY program despite being a junior college student.
  • Another participant comments on the quality of the analysis courses, indicating they are beneficial.
  • There is a question about how EPGY courses are represented on transcripts, with one participant noting that it may not appear as traditional Stanford credit.
  • A high school student shares their experience with EPGY physics courses, mentioning the helpfulness of staff despite outdated systems and cautioning against assuming credit transferability.
  • Some participants caution against taking Real Analysis without prior proof-heavy coursework, while others argue that it can provide valuable theoretical insights into calculus.
  • One participant emphasizes the difficulty of Real Analysis, suggesting it may not be suitable as a first proof course for someone lacking comfort with proofs.
  • Another participant asserts that the EPGY Real Analysis course has great lectures that may ease the learning process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of taking Real Analysis without prior proof experience, with some cautioning against it while others advocate for its potential benefits. There is no consensus on the overall suitability of the EPGY program for junior college students.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the EPGY program is primarily aimed at high school students, which may affect enrollment eligibility and credit transfer. Concerns about the rigor of courses and the representation of EPGY on transcripts are also discussed.

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Hi - I am interested if taking the Stanford EPGY uni-level math courses would be a good choice. It seems like they teach university level math courses and you receive stanford college credit for it. Does anyone know much more about their program? I've been accepted to be able to take classes their (I am a first sem. junior college student majoring in math.)

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I took the EPGY classes while in high school. Quite good for an online class: lectures were clear and problems were provocative. Of course they are quarter length non-honors courses at Stanford, so take this into account. As always, self study has the potential to be a very rewarding experience. Which class are you considering?
 
I'm interested in taking PDEs, Elemntary Real Anaylsis, and Complex Analysis. I would think these would transfer to my school by looking at the similar course syilibi and exact textbook uses (PDEs and Complex Analysis specifcially)
 
I actually misread your post and assumed that you were a high school student. The EPGY program is designed for high school, so I don't know if they would let you take their classes. It's worth asking, though.
 
They did allow me to take classes there.
 
I can't comment on EPGY's PDE since I haven't taken it, but the analysis courses are great.
 
Thank you very much for the answers! I decided to take the RA course to prepare for Rudin since my Linear Algebra wasnt proof based. When you got your transcript from Stanford did it mention EPGY on the transcript?
 
selig5560 said:
did it mention EPGY on the transcript?

It will not look like you went to stanford. I believe it is issued by their continuing studies program.

I am a high school student taking EPGY physics courses. The computer systems are archaic but the people are helpful. Unless you are going to stanford, don't count on any credit. However, it is a good way to learn some math particularity if your community college doesn't have many advanced math courses. Since everything is self-paced, in some ways it is better than convectional teaching
 
I would caution taking real analysis before having taken even one proof heavy class...
 
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cvisc said:
I would caution taking real analysis before having taken even one proof heavy class...

i disagree, analysis can be a good idea to take, as it gives one an understanding of the theory behind calculus, and introduces many tools of pure math, eg set theory. Besides, the epgy course uses ross' 'elementary analysis', not something like apostol or rudin
 
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serllus reuel said:
i disagree, analysis can be a good idea to take, as it gives one an understanding of the theory behind calculus, and introduces many tools of pure math, eg set theory. Besides, the epgy course uses ross' 'elementary analysis', not something like apostol or rudin

I'm not debating the worth of the class. He stated that all he has taken is linear algebra and it wasn't particularly proofy. I suppose I don't know the rigor of EPGY but when I took RA, it was exclusively proofs and insanely difficult (largely considered to be one of the most difficult undergraduate math courses). If he is not comfortable with proofs, it shouldn't be the first proof course he takes.
 
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EPGY is intended for a high school audience and it's RA course, specifically, has great lectures that make it not as difficult to pick up.
 

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