Star Trek: Picard -- anyone seen it yet?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the series premiere of "Star Trek: Picard," focusing on participants' reactions, thoughts on the storyline, character developments, and comparisons to previous Star Trek series. The scope includes personal opinions, critiques, and reflections on the show's direction and writing style.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express enjoyment of the premiere episode, particularly as long-time fans of "The Next Generation" (TNG).
  • Others are hesitant about subscribing to CBS All Access for the series, citing concerns over additional streaming services.
  • A participant notes the return of Jeri Ryan as 7-of-9 and speculates on the implications of Borg technology on human aging.
  • Several comments highlight mixed feelings about the pacing and structure of the series, with some noting it takes multiple episodes to reach a significant narrative moment.
  • Some participants criticize the reliance on familiar tropes and cameos, suggesting a desire for more original storytelling.
  • Others argue that the series maintains the traditional Star Trek themes of addressing societal issues through its narrative.
  • There are varying opinions on the quality of individual episodes, with some participants expressing disappointment while others remain optimistic about future episodes.
  • One participant reflects on the nature of television series, noting that most shows have a mix of good and bad episodes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions, with no clear consensus on the overall quality of the series. Some appreciate the new direction, while others are critical of its execution and pacing.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific episodes and character arcs, indicating a reliance on prior knowledge of the Star Trek universe. There are mentions of unresolved narrative expectations and varying interpretations of character motivations.

Who May Find This Useful

Fans of the Star Trek franchise, particularly those interested in discussions about character development and narrative structure in science fiction television.

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  • #32
I'm definitely leaning to meh, seems more like an appeal to nostalgia than an fresh/smart show...

(don't know how to do the spoiler thing... so if this is too spoilery someone edit?? :oops:)

Magic portals, mechanical snakes, a massive threat to all life in the universe was demonstrated to exist and everyone just left and that was that.

I mean at least go and destroy the 8 sun message thing so no one else can build one of those beacons/portal machines, imagine a terrorist group getting hold of the plans...

Then the whole beacon doesn't make sense... If these other guys got the message, I would think they would come anyway to help their guys, the beacon turning off could be due to their guys losing a battle and needing help more than ever... Rather than oh well they hung up, guess we'll leave them be...

Lol, call 911, hang up, and see what happens!
 
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  • #33
Yeah. I felt the last ep was way too busy:
- too many character plots to wrap up.
- a lot of characters were contorted into uncharacteristic actions (oh, hey, I'll trust you now)
- the scary mecha-snakes were kinda silly
 
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  • #34
I don't know how realistic it is for an old retired officer to say heya guys IMA back, can I be put in charge of your whole fleet and gimme the baddest warship as a flag ship, cool?

Is this a thing for example in the US navy?!
 
  • #35
essenmein said:
I don't know how realistic it is for an old retired officer to say heya guys IMA back, can I be put in charge of your whole fleet and gimme the baddest warship as a flag ship, cool?

Is this a thing for example in the US navy?!

For flag ships there is ships company with a CO and staff with the fleet commander as a separate entity. In general, staff doesn't run day to day ship operations or give tactical commands. Yes, it's unrealistic but the entire show is 'kinda silly'.
 
  • #36
Well, I guess this was a "pilot" series so it had to get all wrapped up at the end. Be interesting if any more follow now. The first of any series is usualy not great, i normally ignore them and start watching from season 2 when everyone is settled in and comfortable in their roles.
 
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  • #37
Well, I think it was more of a tribute than a serious attempt. It was OK, but I do not feel like it would require further episodes or a new plot.
 
  • #38
Shoulda called it On Golden Deflector Dish.

If it was a full 20+ episode run, I'd have an opinion : as it stands, some stuff looks good, some I'm going to charitably say "teething pains": felt like the writers were cut'n'pasting stuff that market research told them a modern audience wants, plus the odd flash of contempt for same, instead of actually writing. But, then again, there's been the odd SF novel from writers I adore which, at first read, I hated.

It's at least as watchable as the Star Trek 90210 movies. Or, STD, which far-left premises and exposition are eyeroll-worthy, while some of the added canon is well crafted.
 

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