Stars Accelerating towards each other

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The discussion revolves around two stars moving in circular orbits due to their gravitational attraction, with a focus on the scenario where they are suddenly stopped and the subsequent collision time is to be determined.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of gravitational equations and conservation laws, with one attempting to express the period in terms of radius and another considering conservation of momentum and energy as alternative approaches. Questions arise regarding the integration of acceleration and the relationship between distance and time.

Discussion Status

Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different methods and sharing partial progress. There is no explicit consensus, but guidance is being offered on how to approach the integration and the use of conservation principles.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the problem due to the non-constant acceleration and the challenge of integrating variables that are not constant. There is an emphasis on the need for clarity in expressing relationships between distance, velocity, and time.

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Homework Statement



Two stars move in circular orbits about one another with period T due to
their mutual gravitational attraction. If the objects are suddenly stopped, show that they
will then collide with one another after a time T /(4√2)

Homework Equations



T = ∫dt
dA/dt = (1/2)r2d∅/dt
Fg= -Gm1m2/r2

The Attempt at a Solution



So I believe I've determined the period in terms of radius. Simply by substituting what dt equals into the integral and solving. You get T = 2piμr2/4l, where l is the magnitude of the angular momentum, and μ is the reduced mass.

After this I'm a little stuck. I've tried integrating the acceleration given by the force on each star, but I get stuck with the differential equation dv = -Gm1/(4r2). Maybe this is the totally wrong way to approach it. In that equation r is not a constant, therefore you can't just integrate it. If doing it this way, you'd have to replace r with a constant multiplied by something having to do with time, but I don't know what that would be.

And also, regular kinematic equations can't be used of course since this is not constant acceleration. Thanks in advance!
 
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Conservation of momentum gives you that the mass centre of the system does not move, so measuring distances from there allows you to concentrate on how long one star will take to reach that point.
How about cheating and using conservation of energy to avoid one level of integration?
 
Hmm ok...I've tried using energy and momentum and it gave me a little progress...I can only get velocity in terms of distance, or vice-versa...so I'm still having trouble getting distance in terms of time =(. Any suggestions?
 
spaderdabomb said:
Any suggestions?
Yes: post what you have so far :wink:
 

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