Steam Wankel Engine: Could it Run Efficiently?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of a three-rotor Wankel engine operating efficiently on steam. Participants explore various aspects including design considerations, lubrication methods, and the potential for using electronic controls for valving systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that a Wankel engine could run efficiently on steam if heat loss is minimized through ceramic coatings on the rotors and chambers.
  • Another participant expresses a long-standing interest in this concept but raises concerns about lubrication, suggesting that oil could be injected into the steam similar to air tools.
  • A participant questions whether the design would involve stacking multiple Wankel rotors with increasing displacements, referencing classic triple expansion engines.
  • There is a suggestion that electronic control of valves could be implemented, using sensors and servo motors to manage rotary valves.
  • One participant asserts that any engine designed for gasoline could also function with steam or compressed air, though they express uncertainty about the ease of converting a specific rotary motor.
  • A later reply mentions that the concept has already been explored, providing a link to an external resource.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the efficiency or practicality of a steam-powered Wankel engine, with multiple competing views and concerns raised throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding specific design elements, such as the need for rust-proofing and the feasibility of converting existing rotary motors for steam use. There are also unresolved questions about the effectiveness of lubrication methods.

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Individuals interested in alternative engine designs, steam power applications, or the mechanics of Wankel engines may find this discussion relevant.

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Could say a three rotor wankel engine run efficiently on steam? If heat heat loss was kept to a minimum may be by ceramic coating the rotors and chambers, i know some valving system would be needed to pass steam from the high pressuer chamber to the LP chambers, seems to me that i would have a semi turbine. :smile:
 
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Woolie, I've been planning to do that for about 20 years. Never had the funds available.
My main concern was lubrication, but I figured that oil could be injected into the steam the way air tools are set up. I also wasn't quite sure what bits, if any, would need to be rust-proofed.
 
You do understand that the classic triple expansion engines had increasing displacement volumes as steam moved from high, through intermediate, to LP pistons? Or, are you planning on stacking two or three Wankel rotors with increasing displacements?
 
I thought that the valves could be controlled electronicaly, a sensor on the engine would control a sevo motor which would opperate rotory valves, if i could find a engine and get it running on compressed air first, hmmmm.
 
Yes. Any engine design that will work for gasoline can also work for steam or compressed air.

I'm not too sure that a particular rotary motor can easily be converted.
 

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