Stephen Weinberg on Understanding Quantum Mechanics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around Stephen Weinberg's perspectives on quantum mechanics, particularly his critiques of the Copenhagen interpretation and the many-worlds interpretation (MWI). Participants explore the implications of these interpretations, the role of determinism and probability in quantum mechanics, and the philosophical underpinnings of various approaches to understanding quantum phenomena.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that the Copenhagen interpretation is flawed because it treats observers classically, while quantum mechanics should apply universally, including to observers and measurement apparatus.
  • There is a suggestion that the probabilistic nature of quantum mechanics must be reconciled with its deterministic evolution as described by the Schrödinger equation.
  • One participant expresses admiration for Weinberg's association of instrumentalism with the Copenhagen interpretation, critiquing the view that interpretations are merely a matter of taste.
  • Concerns are raised about Weinberg's rejection of MWI based on emotional discomfort rather than scientific reasoning, with some participants acknowledging similar feelings.
  • Another participant notes that the lack of evidence makes the choice of interpretation somewhat subjective, likening it to a religious question.
  • Decoherence is discussed as a mechanism that does not determine specific outcomes, with one participant emphasizing the unpredictability of measurement results due to environmental interactions.
  • Weinberg's mathematical treatment of quantum mechanics is referenced, highlighting his views on the inadequacies of existing interpretations and the need for a more comprehensive understanding of measurement processes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the interpretations of quantum mechanics, with no consensus reached. Disagreements exist regarding the implications of decoherence, the validity of emotional responses to theories, and the adequacy of existing interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that decoherence does not resolve the issue of outcome determination in quantum measurements, indicating a limitation in the current understanding of quantum mechanics.

  • #151
Ah, I see. However, the path-integral formalism is also no new theory or even interpretation. It's QT (including both non-relativistic "1st quantization" and relativistic QFT) but offers alternative analytical methodology to evaluate things. It's for sure, together with the invention of Feynman diagrams, among Feynman's most significant contributions to the methodology of theoretical physics.
 
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  • #152
vanhees71 said:
Ah, I see. However, the path-integral formalism is also no new theory or even interpretation.

The formalism isn't an interpretation - just the math expressed a different way.

However when people say its taking all possible paths at once it is an interpretation - the path is a hidden variable. Its very novel because the idea of actually taking every possible path at once is, how to put it it, rather unusual.

That said I am not terribly fussed about it - its just semantics which isn't really that important - its the math that is.

Thanks
Bill
 
  • #153
What you indeed do in the path integral is to evaluate probability amplitudes in a specific way, i.e., by integrating over all possible trajectories in phase space, leading to the propagator.
 
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