Stirling's approximation problem

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of the series \(\sum \frac{n^n}{n!}\) and its relation to Stirling's approximation. Participants are exploring the implications of this series and the limit \(\lim_{n \to \infty} (1 + \frac{1}{n})^n\), which is known to converge to \(e\).

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  • Participants are questioning the convergence of the series and the application of the root test. There is a suggestion to use Stirling's approximation for \(n!\) to analyze the series further. Some participants are also discussing the definition of \(e\) and its derivation from limits.

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The discussion is active with various approaches being explored, including the use of limits and tests for convergence. Some participants are clarifying concepts while others are attempting to prove the limit that defines \(e\). There is no explicit consensus on the series' behavior yet.

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Participants are navigating between the concepts of series and limits, with some confusion regarding definitions and the nature of the problems being discussed. There is an indication that certain assumptions or definitions may need clarification.

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[tex]\sum n^n/ n![/tex]


This example is in the book, it concludes that the above series is :

(1 +1/n)^n, which converges to e and n->infinity

how is this so?

If i take the root test then, is not answer 1 as n->infinity

Can you explain?
 
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How about using Stirling's approximation for the n!?
 


Haven't got there yet
 


That series clearly diverges. Every term is greater than 1. What's the real question? Does it have an x^n in it? Then use the ratio test.
 
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Prove the following:

lim (1 +1/n)^n = e
n->infinity
 


That's not a series. That's a limit. What's your definition of e? Because that's one of them.
 


so how is it that the above limit goes to e = 2.7128282...
 


dont u just re-arrange to find n if e = 2.7?

if u draw the graph on ur calculator u can see that the left side jumps up then stops at (-1.27, 7.15), then all of a sudden on the right side it shows up at about (0.3, 1.57) again, then moves up slowly
 
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Alright forget about this minor problem.
 
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tnutty said:
Prove the following:

lim (1 +1/n)n = e
n->infinity

Let y = (1 + 1/n)n (no limits just yet)
ln y = ln (1 + 1/n)n = n ln (1 + 1/n)

lim ln y = lim n ln (1 + 1/n) ( all limits as n --> [itex]\infty[/itex])

= lim ln (1 + 1/n) / (1/n) (the limit on right is of the form 0/0, so L'Hopital's Rule applies)
[tex]= lim \frac{\frac{-1/n^2}{1 + 1/n}}{\frac{-1}{n^2}}[/tex]
= lim 1/(1 + 1/n) = 1

So lim ln y = 1, or
ln (lim y) = 1, or
lim y = e1 = e

Therefore, lim (1 +1/n)n = e
 

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