Stochastic Process Intg: Why & How?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of stochastic integrals involving a stochastic process \(X(t)\) and a Wiener process \(B(t)\). Participants are examining specific integral identities and their derivations, particularly focusing on the expression \(\int_0^t d(e^{-us} X(s))\) and its relationship to stochastic differential equations.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the derivation of the integral identities and are questioning the assumptions behind the limits of integration. Some are exploring the application of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus in the context of stochastic calculus.

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The discussion is active, with various participants providing insights and attempting to clarify the relationships between the stochastic processes and their integral forms. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Ito's Lemma and the nature of stochastic differentials, but no consensus has been reached on the correctness of the initial expressions.

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There are indications of uncertainty regarding the correct form of the stochastic differential equation related to the integrals discussed, with references to the Ornstein-Uhlenbeck process and the need for careful consideration of drift terms.

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Why does:

\int_0^t d(e^{-us} X(s)) = \sigma \int_0^t e^{-us} dB(s)

for stochastic process X(t) and Wiener process B(t)?

Also, why is the following true:

\int_0^t d(e^{-us} X(s)) = e^{-ut}X(t) - X(0)
 
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operationsres said:
Why does:

\int_0^t d(e^{-us} X(s)) = \sigma \int_0^t e^{-us} dB(s)

for stochastic process X(t) and Wiener process B(t)?
Also, why is the following true:

\int_0^t d(e^{-us} X(s)) = e^{-ut}X(t) - X(0)
I'll answer the second part.

I assume the limits of integration are for the variable, s, and not for the differential quantity, \displaystyle d(e^{-us} X(s))\ .


We can write that differential as \displaystyle \ \ d(e^{-us} X(s)) = \left(\frac{d}{ds}\left(e^{-us} X(s)\right)\right)ds\ .

So that \displaystyle \ \ \int_{s=0}^{s=t}d(e^{-us} X(s)) = \int_{0}^{t}\left(\frac{d}{ds}\left(e^{-us} X(s)\right)\right)ds\ .
 


SammyS said:
So that \displaystyle \ \ \int_{s=0}^{s=t}d(e^{-us} X(s)) = \int_{0}^{t}\left(\frac{d}{ds}\left(e^{-us} X(s)\right)\right)ds\ .

Working with this, we have that:

\int_{0}^{t}\left(\frac{d}{ds}\left(e^{-us} X(s)\right)\right)ds = \int_{0}^{t} \left( -ue^{-us}X(s) + e^{-us} \right)ds

= -u \int_0^t e^{-us}X(s)ds + \int_0^t e^{-us}ds

So I'm still not sure how I can get to the identity based on what you've provided?
 
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operationsres said:
Working with this, we have that:

\int_{0}^{t}\left(\frac{d}{ds}\left(e^{-us} X(s)\right)\right) = \int_{0}^{t} \left( -ue^{-us}X(s) + e^{-us} \right)ds

= -u \int_0^t e^{-us}X(s)ds + \int_0^t e^{-us}ds

So I'm still not sure how I can get to the identity based on what you've provided?
Use the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus to evaluate the definite integral \displaystyle \ \ \int_{0}^{t}\left(\frac{d}{ds}\left(e^{-us} X(s)\right)\right)ds\ .

What is the anti-derivative of \displaystyle \ \ \frac{d}{ds}\left(e^{-us} X(s)\right)\ ?
 


operationsres said:
Why does:

\int_0^t d(e^{-us} X(s)) = \sigma \int_0^t e^{-us} dB(s)

for stochastic process X(t) and Wiener process B(t)?

Presumably because that is the solution to some stochastic differential equation, maybe something like

$$dX_t = -uX_t dt + \sigma dB_t.$$
(Ito interpretation)

(I believe that is not actually the correct stochastic differential equation for that integral; it was just a first guess. Look up Ornstein-Uhlenbeck process for more information and the actually stochastic differential equation. )
The important point is that a different stochastic differential equation would yield a different integral-form solution.
 
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SammyS said:
What is the anti-derivative of \displaystyle \ \ \frac{d}{ds}\left(e^{-us} X(s)\right)\ ?

\displaystyle \ \ \frac{d}{ds}\left(e^{-us} X(s)\right)\ = \int_0^t \frac{d}{ds}\left(e^{-us} X(s)\right)ds

\displaystyle \ \ = d(e^{-ut}X(t))

It seems I've gone in a circle (obviously I didn't do what you were asking for).
 


Mute said:
Presumably because that is the solution to some stochastic differential equation, maybe something like

$$dX_t = -uX_t dt + \sigma dB_t.$$
(Ito interpretation)

A differential stochastic differential equation would yield a different solution.

In fact it is. Nice!
 


operationsres said:
In fact it is. Nice!

Actually, I think the SDE I guessed in that post was not quite correct, as it may ignore a drift term. The full SDE is likely the one corresponding to the Ornstein-Uhlenbeck process, as I just mentioned in an edit to my previous post.
 


Mute said:
Actually, I think the SDE I guessed in that post was not quite correct, as it may ignore a drift term. The full SDE is likely the one corresponding to the Ornstein-Uhlenbeck process, as I just mentioned in an edit to my previous post.

Dear Mute,

Since you know about the OU process, can I ask if this is an accurate representation of a mean-reverting OU?

dX(t) = (m-X(t))dt + \sigma X(t) dB(t)

where m is the mean-reversion term, B(t) is standard Brownian Motion.

I ask because (i) This is what's in my tutorial question list, (ii) Wikipedia and all other external sources I've seen state this process without X(t) in the latter part of the expression (e.g. Wikipedia et al.).
 
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SammyS said:
Use the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus to evaluate the definite integral \displaystyle \ \ \int_{0}^{t}\left(\frac{d}{ds}\left(e^{-us} X(s)\right)\right)ds\ .

What is the anti-derivative of \displaystyle \ \ \frac{d}{ds}\left(e^{-us} X(s)\right)\ ?

You need to avoid things like (d/dt)[exp(-ut) X(t)], because, typically, X(t) is a seriously non-differentiable function, and the usual calculus rules do not apply. Instead, we need to deal with stochastic differentials (essentially, the opposite of stochastic integrals), and we need to use Ito's Lemma or similar results to evaluate things. For example, if B is a standard Brownian motion, we have d(B(t)^2) = 2 B(t) dB(t) + dt, and d(exp(B)) = exp(B) dB + (1/2)*exp(B) dt, etc.

RGV
 
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SammyS said:
Use the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus to evaluate the definite integral \displaystyle \ \ \int_{0}^{t}\left(\frac{d}{ds}\left(e^{-us} X(s)\right)\right)ds\ .

What is the anti-derivative of \displaystyle \ \ \frac{d}{ds}\left(e^{-us} X(s)\right)\ ?
The anti-derivative of \displaystyle \ \ \frac{d}{ds}\left(e^{-us} X(s)\right)\

is \displaystyle \ \ e^{-us} X(s)\ .

So that

\displaystyle \ \ \int_{0}^{t}\left(\frac{d}{ds}\left(e^{-us} X(s)\right)\right)ds=\left(e^{-ut} X(t)\right)-\left(e^{-u0} X(0)\right)\ .
 
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nice, I understand, well done Sammy!
 
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operationsres said:
Why does:

\int_0^t d(e^{-us} X(s)) = \sigma \int_0^t e^{-us} dB(s)

for stochastic process X(t) and Wiener process B(t)?

Also, why is the following true:

\int_0^t d(e^{-us} X(s)) = e^{-ut}X(t) - X(0)

I don't think the expression in this thread's title is correct; however, the second one you wrote is OK (and is, basically, equivalent to the notion of a stochastic differential as an anti-stochastic integral---almost the opposite of how it is done in ordinary calculus). If we have dX = σ dB, and we let f(x,t) = exp(-ut)*x, then
f_x(x,t) = e^{-ut},\: f_{xx}(x,t) = 0, \; f_t(x,t) = -u e^{-ut} x,
so Ito's Lemma gives
d[f(X(t),t)] = \left( 0 f_x + \frac{1}{2} \sigma^2 f_{xx} + f_t \right) dt<br /> + \sigma f_x dB = -u e^{-ut} X(t) dt + \sigma e^{-ut} dB,
so
\int_0^t d\left(e^{-us} X(s) \right) = \sigma \int_0^t e^{-us} dB(s) <br /> - \int_0^t u e^{-us} X(s) ds.

RGV
 

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