Stoke's Theorem Question with plane and sphere

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The problem involves evaluating the line integral of a vector field F along the curve defined by the intersection of a plane and a sphere. The vector field is given as F = < yz + x, xz + 2x, xy + 3x >, with the plane described by the equation 2x + y - 3z = 0 and the sphere defined by x² + y² + z² = 4.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the correct interpretation of the problem, particularly regarding the normal vector of the surface and the nature of the intersection as a curve rather than a surface. There is also exploration of applying Stokes' Theorem and the implications of integrating over a surface versus a curve.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the nature of the problem and suggesting different approaches to the integral. Some participants have pointed out misunderstandings regarding the surface and normal vector, while others have proposed methods for parameterizing the intersection curve.

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There is a noted confusion about the application of Stokes' Theorem in this context, as well as the need to clarify the limits of integration when transitioning to spherical coordinates.

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Homework Statement


Let F =< yz + x, xz + 2x, xy + 3x >. Evaluate ∫F·dr where C is the intersection of the plane
2x + y − 3z = 0 and the sphere x2+ y2 + z2 = 4 oriented positively when viewed from above.


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The main question I have about this problem regards the normal vector of the surface. Because the surface is just an isolated portion of the plane, I thought I could use the normal vector of the plane to calculate the surface integral. However, when I try this I don't get the right answer. Can someone explain why this shouldn't work and what the right way would be to find the normal vector?
Thanks!
 
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You have misunderstood the problem. You don't have a "normal vector to the surface" because you don't have a surface! You are asked to integrate around the intersection of the given plane and surface- and that is a curve, not a surface.

The simplest thing to do, I think, is to solve the equation of the plane for y: y= 3z- 2x. Putting that into the equation of the sphere we have x^2+ (3z- 2x)^3+ z^2= x^2+ 9z^2- 12xz+ 4x^2+ z^2= 5x^2- 12xz+ 10z^2= 4 which is the equation of a circle in the xz-plane. That can be written in parametric equations and then you can integrate around the circle.
 
I thought that by Stoke's Theorem ∫F·dr = ∫∫(∇xF)dS, which means that if I take the curl of F, I can use the surface instead of the boundary.
 
Yes! I just noticed that the title of your thread says "Stokes' theorem"! Sorry about that. You want to, then, integrate over the surface of the sphere. The differental of surface area on a sphere is \rho^2 sin(\phi)d\theta d\phi and the "unit normal" will be (1/\sqrt{x^2+ y^2+ z^2})(\vec{i}+ \vec{j}+ \vec{k}). The "hard part" of this problem, I think, will be finding the limits of integration. In spherical coordinates, x= \rho cos(\theta) sin(\phi), y= \rho sin(\theta) sin(\phi), and z= \rho cos(\phi). On this sphere, of course, \rho= 2. putting those into the equation of the plane give 4cos(\theta)sin(\phi)+ 2sin(\theta)sin(\phi)- 6cos(\phi)= 0 so that 6cos(\phi)= (4cos(\theta)+ 2sin(\theta))sin(\phi) or tan(\phi)= (2/3)cos(\theta)+ (1/3)sin(\theta). Your integral should take \phi from 0 to that and \theta from 0 to 2\pi.
 

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