Stopping Power and Range units for charged particles

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the units of stopping power and range for charged particles, specifically comparing the use of MeV/cm and MeVcm2/g for stopping power, and cm and g/cm2 for range. Participants explore the implications of these units on the interpretation of results in materials studies.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant explains that mass stopping power is defined as MeV/cm divided by the density of the material, resulting in units of MeVcm2/g, which incorporates density effects.
  • Another participant asserts that stopping power is affected by material density and is typically presented as MeV/cm, suggesting density is built into the calculation.
  • A participant argues that using MeVcm2/g for stopping power and cm for range leads to a loss of the expected relationship between stopping power and range, which should inversely correlate.
  • One reply points out that the relationship does not disappear but is shifted to a later step, providing an example of range in different materials.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the implications of using different units and seeks clarification on which unit set to adopt for consistency in comparisons.
  • A later response outlines two options: using density-independent units for broader applicability or density-dependent units for specific materials, noting that both have their advantages and disadvantages.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of various unit sets for stopping power and range. There is no consensus on which unit set is superior, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for comparing charged particle ranges across different materials.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of the relationship between stopping power and range, particularly in relation to material density. The discussion reflects varying assumptions about how density affects these measurements and the implications of using different units.

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Dear members,

The unit of stopping power is given as Mev/cm in many sources. It is easy to comprehend this unit.The mass stopping power, which is the total energy lost per path length by a charged particle, is defined as the division of MeV/cm to the density of investigated material, g/cm3, and unit of mass stopping power is MeVcm2/g. This unit is also logic due to the addition of the density parameter of the material.

The range of a charged particle is obtained by an integration operation related to the stopping power so the unit of range will be cm when MeV/cm is adopted, and will be g/cm2 when MeVcm2/g is adopted.

I am trying to compare the calculation results of stopping power and range data obtained for a number of elements and composites where I got the results in both unit sets as;

i. Mev/cm for the stopping power and cm for the range
ii. MeVcm2/g for the stopping power and g/cm2 for the range

I would like to express the stopping power in the units of MeVcm2/g since the density effect is important regarding the materials studies and the range in the units of cm since I would like to express this phenomena as length to make it more understandable.

The problem arise here. The high stopping power should result less particle range and vice versa. If the unit of MeVcm2/g is used for the stopping power, which takes account the density of the material, and cm for the range, which does not takes account the density of the material, "high stopping power should result less particle range and vice versa" situation is disappearing. Also, due to the density effect I suppose, the material with the highest stopping power and the particle with the highest range differs when using different unit sets.

So, what are your comments? Which unit set is more useful, sensitive and logic when comparing different charged particle ranges in various materials and those materials stopping power? What should I do?

Please do add your valuable comments and share your knowledge.p.
 
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I got a case of MEGO while reading your post. However the stopping power of any material is obviously affected by the density of the material. Usually this is presented as Mev/cm for the given material, with density built into the calculation.
 
parazit said:
If the unit of MeVcm2/g is used for the stopping power, which takes account the density of the material, and cm for the range, which does not takes account the density of the material, "high stopping power should result less particle range and vice versa" situation is disappearing.
It does not disappear, it is shifted to a later step.

A range of 20 g/cm2 gives you 20 cm in water, but tens to hundreds of meters in water vapor.
 
mathman said:
I got a case of MEGO while reading your post. However the stopping power of any material is obviously affected by the density of the material. Usually this is presented as Mev/cm for the given material, with density built into the calculation.

Thanks for your reply and yea, I should not have lost myself while writing.

If MeV/cm has built in density affect then why there exist another unit obtained by dividing MeV/cm with density ?
 
mfb said:
It does not disappear, it is shifted to a later step.

A range of 20 g/cm2 gives you 20 cm in water, but tens to hundreds of meters in water vapor.

I understand that situation yet representing the range in cm unit while using MeVcm2/g for stopping power will not result in the mentioned relationship. I need to use g/cm2 for range.

So, you suggest me to use the unit set ii and give the metric range when asked or what is your suggestion? Please explain.
 
I don't understand what you are asking in your last post.

You have two different options.
  • Give the stopping power and range in a density-independent way (MeV cm2/g and g/2), then you can use the same formula for gases and liquids, and it will often apply as approximation to a wide range of materials.
  • Give the stopping power and range in a density-dependent way (MeV/cm and cm), then this number is valid for a specific material in a specific form only, but it is easier to use if you happen to have this material.
Both options have advantages and disadvantages, and both options are used due to that.
 
Thanks a lot for your kind and patient behavior.
 

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