Stratospheric temperatures have been constant for 10 years

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The discussion centers on the behavior of stratospheric temperatures over the past decade, particularly in relation to the warming trends observed in the troposphere. Participants explore the mechanisms behind stratospheric temperature stability and its implications for understanding climate change.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that while long-term trends in stratospheric temperatures are downward, there has been little change over the last decade, raising questions about the independence of stratospheric temperatures from tropospheric warming.
  • Another participant mentions that the stratosphere is primarily warmed by UV absorption and suggests that global warming predictions indicate a cooling of the stratosphere, contrasting with the warming of the troposphere. However, they express uncertainty about the mechanisms involved and the lack of consensus on this issue.
  • A question is raised about the possibility of heat from the stratosphere warming the troposphere.
  • In response, a participant argues against this idea, stating that the stratosphere is stratified with minimal vertical motion of air masses, suggesting that the radiative influence between the stratosphere and troposphere is limited.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between stratospheric and tropospheric temperatures, with some questioning the mechanisms of temperature change and others asserting that the stratosphere cannot influence the troposphere. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge uncertainties regarding the mechanisms of stratospheric cooling and the implications of ozone depletion, as well as the lack of clear consensus on these topics.

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I read on http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/11/the-sky-is-falling/The long term trend in stratospheric temperatures is clearly downward. For the last decade, however,stratospheric tempratures haven't changed much.How can the stratosphere temperature be independent of the warming of the troposphere in the last ten years -why haven't stratospheric temperatures consistently changed over the last ten years?
 
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Stratosphere is mainly warmed by absorption of UV from sunlight.

One of the prediction of GW is that stratosphere will cool, unlike-troposphere which will warm. IPCC http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/351.htm" .

This is, however, no use for detecting climate change as it might be, because with decrease of ozone is predicted with decrease with temp.

Im not sure of the exact mechanism why it cools, etc. I don't think there is clear consensus.
 
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Could heat from the stratosphere be warming the troposphere?
 
NO, stratosphere is stratified, there is little or no vertical motion of air masses. The radiative influence of stratosphre-troposphere is also not large.

Stratosphere cannot warm troposphere.
 

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